Tenants From HELL!!

[SK1NT]

They shouldn't have spoken to you like that but to be honest they seem to ask for reasonable things. People who rent out flats seem to think they can do this with no cost to them whatsoever and think it's going to be some kind of cashcow for them and get quite a rude awakening when tenants ask for stuff that they are entitled to. And sort the damp out for them . What right do you have to keep their deposit? Unfortunately tenants have to be demanding these days after years of being ripped off by landlords. If you can't handle that sell up and leave that business well alone.

MAybe the flat wasn't clean enough and frankly I would complain if I moved in and someone else's stuff like T.V's and bedframes were in there. It's my home I don't want their shit cluttering it up.

This comment is harsh... It isnt as if i have any other properties. Me and the gf bought this, she went to uni and we couldnt afford to live there. Was never meant to be a cash cow and the rent doesnt even cover the mortgage... The flat was in immaculate condition and every issue they have complained about has only occured via them...

In hindsight i shouldnt have got the double glazing however i thought i was being nice and i thought the double glazing would just add some value to the property.

I did do an inventory however i dont think i took pictures of the cailing and wall...

The double glazing has definately caused the damp however i feel they have been negligent by not venting the room after a shower etc. When we lived there or the other two previous tennats there were not any issues. Now i am going to be moving back into a flat that need to be totally redecorated again....

They have not been grateful for anything i have done and feel keeping the deposit will only cover a bit of the damage caused by the damp and damage to the new double bed they put in a damp garage.

The TV was left by a previous tenant but i moved this for them the next day. A tenant not taking a tv shouldn't refelct on me especially if i moved it the next day...

To go managed costs about £100 a month extra and although this would have been lovely i couldnt afford to do this.

Appreciate everyones comments... I will serve them their notice and save all this grief... Renting is a nightmare hence why i want to move back in and just struggle with a huge mortgage rather than suffer more grief....

 

[Dunk]

I would put the rent up with effect from April 1st. If they are part way through buying a house they might not be able to take a 6-month placement elsewhere and you can get back some of your money. Failing that just move them out. It's not far off now anyway.

It's a few years since I rented but I remember landlords routinely making stuff up to withhold deposit monies. I'm sure a thorough inspection can reveal all sorts of damage.

We nearly bought a flat in 2007. People kept going above the asking prices to force us to pull out. So glad now that I'm not in negative equity, sorry to hear it happening to you.

 

[Hotchilidog]

I'm just about to rent my old flat out after I have had some damp proofing and redecoration done and I find these tales worrying, I'm wondering if it is worth going down the managed route. I hope you get everything sorted Brighton Boy.

 

[SK1NT]

I'm just about to rent my old flat out after I have had some damp proofing and redecoration done and I find these tales worrying, I'm wondering if it is worth going down the managed route. I hope you get everything sorted Brighton Boy.

Hey these landlords are a one off. Im sure renting is generally ok.... As mentioned the previous tenants have been fine. You just have to make sure you get professional and decent tenants (i thought i had) it's when they dont have a disregard to the property and just see it as a rental property.

Ive never made up stuff or taken a penny of a deposit... however on this occasion its different but i am tempted to let them have the whole deposit for a peaceful life... However with the work that will need doing when ik move back in i dont think financially i can do this.

 

[The Large One]

Hey these landlords are a one off. Im sure renting is generally ok.... As mentioned the previous tenants have been fine. You just have to make sure you get professional and decent tenants (i thought i had) it's when they dont have a disregard to the property and just see it as a rental property.

Ive never made up stuff or taken a penny of a deposit... however on this occasion its different but i am tempted to let them have the whole deposit for a peaceful life... However with the work that will need doing when ik move back in i dont think financially i can do this.

Peaceful life? Are they persecuting you or are they just a bit angry?

Sorry, but so what if they swear at you or get a bit stroppy? If they were friends, I'm sure you'd be upset. But this is a business arrangement, and any hostility (which by the sounds of things is their problem - not yours) should not be taken personally.

Just inform them that you wish to have them vacate the premises at the end of the contract, retain some of the deposit (if nothing else because you'd be in dispute over the damp issue), and deal with it once they've gone. If they want to get pissed off, that's their problem - you just play your part straight down the middle.

Incidentally, now you've got double glazing in, you may even be able to charge the next tenants a bit more rent.

 

[clippedgull]

You just have to make sure you get professional and decent tenants (i thought i had) it's when they dont have a disregard to the property and just see it as a rental property.

You have proved yourself that proffessionals can be as chavvy as the chaviest. How do you know that the doctor that moves in next, as an example, is going to be any different to a decent person on housing benefit? You don't!

 

[SK1NT]

Peaceful life? Are they persecuting you or are they just a bit angry?

Sorry, but so what if they swear at you or get a bit stroppy? If they were friends, I'm sure you'd be upset. But this is a business arrangement, and any hostility (which by the sounds of things is their problem - not yours) should not be taken personally.

Just inform them that you wish to have them vacate the premises at the end of the contract, retain some of the deposit (if nothing else because you'd be in dispute over the damp issue), and deal with it once they've gone. If they want to get pissed off, that's their problem - you just play your part straight down the middle.

Incidentally, now you've got double glazing in, you may even be able to charge the next tenants a bit more rent.

TLO this is exactly what i shall do... but has society really got that abusive that i should take the abuse i got when i went around the flat to do them a favour? It is a tragic state... and i probably did get unnecessarily upset. I could understand the abuse if i was doing something out of order...

Oh well i will serve them their notice and evaluate the cost of the damage when we move back in...

 

[SK1NT]

You have proved yourself that proffessionals can be as chavvy as the chaviest. How do you know that the doctor that moves in next, as an example, is going to be any different to a decent person on housing benefit? You don't!

That's the gamble i guess...

Renting is made easier if you are making a nice little amount each month however when the rent doesnt cover the mortgage and you are paying for other things on top it just makes things hard....

 

[sydney]

f***ing millwall fans.....they're fuckin everywhere.

 

[The Large One]

TLO this is exactly what i shall do... but has society really got that abusive that i should take the abuse i got when i went around the flat to do them a favour? It is a tragic state... and i probably did get unnecessarily upset. I could understand the abuse if i was doing something out of order...

Oh well i will serve them their notice and evaluate the cost of the damage when we move back in...

Then don't do them any favours...

Carry out your obligations by all means, but favours are something else - and remind them that being civil will get them a lot further than being abusive.

However, that appears a little late now.

 

[SK1NT]

f***ing millwall fans.....they're fuckin everywhere.

He's villa actually poor sod...

 

[SI 4 BHA]

So this morning i received a new message with photos of damp in the bathroom and bedroom. They are pretty bad and is was not there before as they would have surely complained about this. They are saying the damp was already there but to let the damp get to the stage it is currently at seems to me total negligence. Every time i have been to the flat it hot, humid and they have this dame baby bottle cleaning pumping out loads of steam. Am i left to foot the bill or can i take it out of their deposit?

I even feel bad keeping their deposit as i have never kept a penny off any deposit in the past but i see no other way. For a teacher this guy is aggressive and make me feel like i’m always in the wrong and they are hard done by but the flat has never been an issue for any previous tenants, it is in great condition and i have resolved any issue that have complained about...

It's almost certainly just the effects of condensation, I bet they have kept all the windows shut over the winter and you say the flat is always hot and humid, so this sounds likely, especially as you have not had double glazing fitted. I'm on the management committe of a block of flats and leaseholders often complain about so called damp. There never is any, it's just that they don't keep the flat properly ventilated. We get a surveyor to have a look at it and his usual advice is to tell them to wash it down and open a few windows from time to time and that pretty much sorts it out.

On the other hand, if you really have suddenly got a damp problem, it may be related to leaking pipes in the flat above yours, or maybe even a roof problem. My advice is get someone qualified to look at it before you do anything else.

 

[SK1NT]

Then don't do them any favours...

Carry out your obligations by all means, but favours are something else - and remind them that being civil will get them a lot further than being abusive.

However, that appears a little late now.

I have only been civil to them the worst thing i have done is say that the damp is negligence on their behalf as it should never have got that bad and damp is generally down to the care of the property...

 

[The Large One]

I have only been civil to them the worst thing i have done is say that the damp is negligence on their behalf as it should never have got that bad and damp is generally down to the care of the property...

So... they respond by being abusive?

f*** 'em.

 

[sydney]

I have only been civil to them the worst thing i have done is say that the damp is negligence on their behalf as it should never have got that bad and damp is generally down to the care of the property...

you say flat ...ground floor or 1st regardless off this , cavity walls are the norm in uk so the chances are the damp ( condensation) is from within ........get rid of the brummy cvnts ,dont feel bad mate ,it'syour flat ffs......

 

[SK1NT]

So... they respond by being abusive?

f*** 'em.

Yea it's how i feel. He has left a message on my phone saying we need to talk but i really can;t be bothered... i think i should just leave it...

I am right in thinking damp is generally caused by the person living in the property not venting it etc?

 

[SK1NT]

you say flat ...ground floor or 1st regardless off this , cavity walls are the norm in uk so the chances are the damp ( condensation) is from within ........get rid of the brummy cvnts ,dont feel bad mate ,it'syour flat ffs......

Thanks will keep everyone posted...

 

[Steveapps71]

Thanks will keep everyone posted...

good luck & make sure you put in writing your agreement is ending at end of March, letting them know they will be expected to be gone!
Good riddance to the chavs

 

[SK1NT]

He has just texted as i didnt answer the call... saying he doesnt want to argue and just being all nice... So hopefully we can solve this like adults amicably cheers all for the advice

 

[mikeyjh]

To go managed costs about £100 a month extra and although this would have been lovely i couldnt afford to do this.

I'm sure you have thought this through, but while an agency will take 10% from the rental, this is tax deductible and, in my own experience, they do offer a lot for that - Advertising, credit checks, references, inventories etc prior to them moving in and then handling all interactions once they're in. They will also be able to point you in the right direction regarding your responsibilities and perhaps save you a few quid - I'm certain they would have told you that you don't need to put double glazing in. (Though that probably works out in the long run.