Team v N'hampton...

[WhingForPresident]

After one game?

Well if he plays Saturday and Tuesday, he won't be able to play Saturday.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

Yes, that five yard pass was quite something. I almost wet myself.

Ignore my point why don't you? You were criticising his first touch and I made a point of when he held the ball up perfectly and setup a goal.

 

[Foolg]

As I am tired, I won't get into this debacle.

However, as TCB said, Barnes yesterday had the touch of a complete and utter rapist. Awful against Aberdeen too. Did he actually score in any of the pre season games either? It must be 6 or 7 on the bounce without the goal now..

Probably OK for backup though, behind Murray and another striker.

I think even TCB may be happy to have him off the bench every so often, as i am, but he should not be starting if we want to be in the play-offs (imo) as he is simply not effective enough.
What i disagree with is those that think he'll get 15 goals this season and should start every game, as well as going out of our way to get him when he was a target.

 

[algie]

Michel Kuipers is my favourite ever goalkeeper at this club. That didn't just happen. He earnt that level of respect and adoration for his performances on the pitch for years. To replace him, we've signed a goalkeeper who was in and out for Swindon for the best part of 3 years. We saw Phil Smith yesterday, the guy who ousted him from the club. Where you impressed? Lord knows, I never have been. But we've signed a guy who was considered not as good. I've nothing against Brezovan, he's a lovely chap and can be a quality goalkeeper at this level, but he can also be a liability and cost us points. Ankergren was a regular in the Leeds team who did NOT manage to get promoted, despite having the best striker in the league and the biggest budget. Leeds came 2nd last year, and Shane Higgs played a LOT of games in the league, so you can't say it was just Ankergren who got them promoted.

I'm far from being against any goalkeeper we sign, I just don't think we've found a goalkeeper better than the one we had for 10 years, the one who has played in the team for the VAST majority of Albion supporting career. What a suprise that I place him much higher than some of the other goalkeepers we've signed to try and replace him. Atleast before this year, we've had him to go back into the team and sort us out. We don't have that luxury this season.

Thankfully hardly anyone agrees with your views so that tells it's own story regarding Casper.You judge players poorly in my view.
I'm a Kuipers fan but is he any better then Casper? No he isn't. The reason why Kuipers is respected so much is due to his long service to the club.
Kuipers was a very limited keeper.Poor at crosses,Usless at penalties and his kicking and dispribution left alot to be desired.He wasn't exacly commanding either.His shot stopping won alot of fans over,they were world class at times.
Casper shows the same traits as kuipers from what i've been told but has the added bonus of an excellent penalty saver.We have our new number one as i firmly believe he is better then Brez.Saying that we have to very good keepers at this level so i'm happy.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

What a complete load of rubbish. For starters, in your time Roberts for one was clearly better than Kuipers and his injury proneness was the biggest shame. As for bringing Kuipers into the team, we had by far our best run last season with Brezovan in goal. He had a run of 1 goal conceded in 6 games last season and was a major part in our turnaround in the second half of the season. He may make the odd mistake but so did Kuipers and Brezovan was better off his line and with his distribution. As for Smith, Brezovan had an injury and had lost his way but seemed to have found his way back to full fitness last season.

As for Ankergren, he played over half of the games last season so more often than Higgs and was brilliant in their FA Cup run. Finally, saying about the luxury of going back to Kuipers after we have played one game and won is ridiculous.

Yes, Roberts was. For one season. Michel has been our #1 for the majority of the decade. Maybe Roberts would have forced Michel out if he'd stayed fit, but he didn't, and Michel played the next season, and every season since. We had our best finish, 7th, when Michel played every minute of every game. That was no accident or coincidance.
I don't need you to try and tell me what happened to him at Swindon. He broke his arm in 2007. You're telling me it took him 3 years to regain full fitness?

So why, then, was Ankergren released? If he was so good, why did Higgs finish the season in their goal, and was retained with Ankergren being released? No, what I said was that we don't have the option. In the past when the other goalkeepers we brought in, Michel always won his place back. The time will come that Ankergren will need replacing, but we have a goalkeeper of equal/less ability to replace him.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Thankfully hardly anyone agrees with your views so that tells it's own story.
I'm a Kuipers fan but is he any better then Casper? No he isn't. The reason why Kuipers is respected so much is his long service to the club.
Kuipers was a very limited keeper.Poor at crosses,Usless at penalties and his kicking and dispribution left alot to be desired.He wasn't exacly commanding either.His sthot stopping won alot of fans over.
Casper shows the same traits as kuipers from what i've been told but has the added bonus of an excellent penalty saver.We have our new number one as i firmly believe he is better then Brez.Saying that we have to very good keepers at this level so i'm happy.

So what? I don't need my opinions to be validated in order for me to believe in them.
What you're saying is that because we've signed Ankergren from the almighty Leeds United, he MUST be better than Kuipers. That's clearly how it works, we bring someone in from another club, so they're automatically better than what we have at the club.

 

[BensGrandad]

You think 29-year-old Charlie McDonald, scorer of 31 goals in 78 games (largely at a lower level) for Brentford and 1 in 25 at Southend, is someone we should be considering as a big-money striker. If you think anyone is wrong they are almost certainly right. Thanks for saying I'm wrong.

Why do we have people on here who cannot read properly. Where have I ever said I would like McDonald as a big money signing. I said I would prefer him to Austin but neither are worth £1m.

 

[Silent Bob]

Based on my opinion. Ankergren has played us once or twice, remember, we've seen the guy first hand. When we signed Brezovan, I said the same thing. We've seen the guy before signing him, and in Brezovan's case he'd been poor against us. Ankergren, on the other hand, did have a good record against us. The reason I dislike Ankergren is nothing to do with Swindon, if anything, his performance in us winning there raises him in my estimations. But I still don't rate him overly highly. Maybe that will change with time, I certainly hope so. Obviously, I want him to do well for us.

Say what you like, it's all a game of opinions.

You based your opinion on your opinion? That's even stupider than basing it on the fact Poyet was at Swindon or something.

 

[SirDouglasLoft]

If anyone thinks Casper is a bad signing they are clearly retarded. Great signing.

Also barnes is 20/21 ffs give him time. Jeez.!

 

[Ninja Elephant]

You based your opinion on your opinion? That's even stupider than basing it on the fact Poyet was at Swindon or something.

I said he wasn't a very good goalkeeper and you asked me what I based that on. I said my opinion. That makes sense to me, if it doesn't to you, that's your problem.

 

[algie]

As for Barnes,again poor views on him.You tell me how many players at 20 years of age are physically strong enough to play as a lone striker in league 1?
He will grow into a btter player the more games he players and preferably another season or two under his belt.It really is a tough ask to play upfront on your own.He won't be prolific but will certainly give us options.Another player that has a good future here.

 

[TrueFan]

Team:

Ankergren

Whing - Elphick - El-Abd - Painter

Holroyd - Dicker - Battipeidi - Navarro - Baz

Barnes

 

[Finchley Seagull]

Yes, Roberts was. For one season. Michel has been our #1 for the majority of the decade. Maybe Roberts would have forced Michel out if he'd stayed fit, but he didn't, and Michel played the next season, and every season since. We had our best finish, 7th, when Michel played every minute of every game. That was no accident or coincidance.
I don't need you to try and tell me what happened to him at Swindon. He broke his arm in 2007. You're telling me it took him 3 years to regain full fitness?

So why, then, was Ankergren released? If he was so good, why did Higgs finish the season in their goal, and was retained with Ankergren being released? No, what I said was that we don't have the option. In the past when the other goalkeepers we brought in, Michel always won his place back. The time will come that Ankergren will need replacing, but we have a goalkeeper of equal/less ability to replace him.

What a stupid comment. It is almost like you are willing Ankergren to fail with your "time will come that Ankergren will need replacing" comment. You clearly have written off Ankergren and Brezovan and the only reason for doing that is bitterness at Kuipers release.

With Brezovan, he obviously struggled to regain fitness afterwards, as players do. Maybe it took longer than it would others but most people who weren't biased felt he earnt his place in the team at the end of last season and was better than Kuipers.

Finally, Grayson obviously felt Higgs was a better option but that does not mean he was right or, even if he was right, that Ankergren is not good enough for us. Also, Higgs had another year on his contract whereas Ankergren was out of contract so the logical one to release. To be honest, I am not saying Ankergren will make it but having only seen him play one game I certainly will not write him off.

 

[BensGrandad]

I do not think that Austin would be able to play with Murray as well as McDonald would, again it is only an opinion and neither mine nor TCBs opinion counts for anything in the context of team selection.

 

[Silent Bob]

I said he wasn't a very good goalkeeper and you asked me what I based that on. I said my opinion. That makes sense to me, if it doesn't to you, that's your problem.

Your stupidity is only my problem because you want to show it to the world.

You say your opinion that he isn't a very good goalkeeper is based on your opinion that he isn't a very good goalkeeper. I say that's the most moronic thing I've ever heard.

 

[algie]

So what? I don't need my opinions to be validated in order for me to believe in them.
What you're saying is that because we've signed Ankergren from the almighty Leeds United, he MUST be better than Kuipers. That's clearly how it works, we bring someone in from another club, so they're automatically better than what we have at the club.

It's got nothing to do with him coming from Leeds. Do you have trouble reading? Did i say he is better then Kuipers? I said he has the same traits as Kuipers but can save penalties as well.Don't play the spin game mate it shows you up.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

What a stupid comment. It is almost like you are willing Ankergren to fail with your "time will come that Ankergren will need replacing" comment. You clearly have written off Ankergren and Brezovan and the only reason for doing that is bitterness at Kuipers release.

With Brezovan, he obviously struggled to regain fitness afterwards, as players do. Maybe it took longer than it would others but most people who weren't biased felt he earnt his place in the team at the end of last season and was better than Kuipers.

Finally, Grayson obviously felt Higgs was a better option but that does not mean he was right or, even if he was right, that Ankergren is not good enough for us. Also, Higgs had another year on his contract whereas Ankergren was out of contract so the logical one to release. To be honest, I am not saying Ankergren will make it but having only seen him play one game I certainly will not write him off.

You inferred that from my comment, I didn't say that. I haven't written off anyone, and haven't said so either. I have no bitterness about Michel's release, it had to happen eventually. All I am saying is that we've signed 2 goalkeepers to replace him, and neither of them are as good as he was. That's an opinion, it may change over time. I've not made up my mind, but I have the capacity to remember that these players had career before joining us.