Talk sport are a disgrace!

[wrexhamgnasher]

I've just listened to it now on the way back from Telford and at the moment Ray Houghton and Adrian Durham are on.
Adrian bought up the subject of "should the bigger clubs pay some money towards stopping the little clubs from dieing. i.e. Wrexham and Cambridge"

Ray replied with "The smaller clubs have a budget to stick too, they should not overspend on this budget. They should realise that the premiership is not a realistic possibility and stop living the dream" He also claimed it wasn't the bigger clubs roles as there fans are there to support their team and not the lower league clubs.

When asked by Adrian if he would then feel guilty if he hadn't doen anythign to stop these smaller clubs from dieing he said its not the bigger clubs problem.

This is excatly the line Freddy Sheppard took.

I'm not going to bother wasting my phone bill when I could be ringing the Ring for Wrexham line instead.

However here is the website to e-mail them
http://www.talksport.net/default.aspx

 

[itszamora]

Fucks sake, you'd think someone like Houghton would actually realise what a football team means to a community. And also realise that what's happening in your situation is nothing to do with overspending on a budget, more to do with a corrupt pr*ck.

 

[Curious Orange]

He kind of ignores the fact that there was a time when the likes of Liverpool and Manchester United WERE little teams.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

This is the same Ray Houghton who got his first taste of top-flight football with those international giants OXFORD UNITED!

I wonder if he thinks Oxford fans should stop living the dream?

What a wanker.....

 

[Hungry Joe]

What an utter (nips off to NSP to complete sentence)

 

[e77]

Lower clubs should stick to their budget, but Wrexham's woes weren't caused by living the dream.

 

[On the Left Wing]

Talk Sport is a constant waste of time ... it's a devil's advocate programme (but like NSC!) designed to create debate - most of it ill-informed (unlike NSC of course)

 

[oapdodge]

Wouldn't it be nice if say Manure donated just £1 from ticket sales for one home match to the Wrexham fund. Or if the whole of the premiershite donated £1 from ticket sales for one home match a season to a fighting fund. Dover would be saved and there would be loads left over.

 

[On the Left Wing]

Brighton, Wrexham, Donny Rovers, Cambridge United, Darlington, Carlisle United ..... notice the common denominator .... rodue owners who try to profit at the clubs' expenses .... nothing at all to do with a Ridsdale type sitaution!

 

[wrexhamgnasher]

Lower clubs should stick to their budget, but Wrexham's woes weren't caused by living the dream.

Excatly. I was quite glad when they actually mentioned something on the lower league. They had been talking about the Arsenal youngsters and how they needed an older head for the last hour.
Before that it was "do you think Sky cover too much football" Then they were trying to name a game for every day this week. They said "I'm sure theres a championship game on Friday, last friday it was Forest vs someone" Then someone rang up and said it was Cheltenham v Darlington

 

[Curious Orange]

Although it is arguable that Archer was able to get in at the Albion due to the financial position the club got in to having been in Division One some seasons before?

 

[jodcm007]

yes it would but we all know they are greedy bastards

Wouldn't it be nice if say Manure donated just £1 from ticket sales for one home match to the Wrexham fund. Or if the whole of the premiershite donated £1 from ticket sales for one home match a season to a fighting fund. Dover would be saved and there would be loads left over.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Wouldn't it be nice if say Manure donated just £1 from ticket sales for one home match to the Wrexham fund. Or if the whole of the premiershite donated £1 from ticket sales for one home match a season to a fighting fund. Dover would be saved and there would be loads left over.

to be honest why should they? and why would they?

 

[wrexhamgnasher]

to be honest why should they? and why would they?

That's what they were discussing. It wasn't that that had annoyed me it was the fact that Ray had said it was the smaller clubs fault for going bust and trying to "live the dream". This obviously wasn't the case fr both Wrexham and Cambridge.

I guess Ray should have stayed at Oxford then and not moved on up the divisions as thats living the dream

 

[Hungry Joe]

This may be complete crass bollocks but I reckon part of the problem is the naming of divisions since the Premiership came into existence. When I used to watch MOTD it was Div 1, then Div 2 etc etc. You felt like there was a link. Now we've got the Premiership (elitist title), the Championship (what the f*** does that mean?) and div 1 and 2. It's corporate marketing of the worst kind; "my brand's better than your brand" blah blah blah. Jesus, life seemed so much simpler and fairer when I was little. I'm going to take a valium now and trudge off to bed dreaming of the good old days when you could take your shirt off without being suspended, and you'd have a hairy chest and a St.Christopher instead of a waxed torso and a vest with your bitches name on.

 

[wrexhamgnasher]

This may be complete crass bollocks but I reckon part of the problem is the naming of divisions since the Premiership came into existence. When I used to watch MOTD it was Div 1, then Div 2 etc etc. You felt like there was a link. Now we've got the Premiership (elitist title), the Championship (what the f*** does that mean?) and div 1 and 2. It's corporate marketing of the worst kind; "my brand's better than your brand" blah blah blah. Jesus, life seemed so much simpler and fairer when I was little. I'm going to take a valium now and trudge off to bed dreaming of the good old days when you could take your shirt off without being suspended, and you'd have a hairy chest and a St.Christopher instead of a waxed torso and a vest with your bitches name on.

Of course it aint bollocks, re-branding and sky have destroyed lower league football. They've pumped all their money into the premiership and when ITV digital went bust it just made things 10 times worse.
Ahh the good old days, back when Wrexham we're in Europe taking on the might Porto and Anderlecht.

 

[oapdodge]

to be honest why should they? and why would they?

They don't have to and will not do it but would they miss it ? Why should they do it ? to keep football alive at all levels some of the clubs in the premiershite have been down with us and others.
Fulham,P****e,Portsmouth,Southampton,Man City, Charlton,Newcastle,Bolton,Norwich,Blackburn and more they should remember their roots.

 

[Hungry Joe]

They don't have to and will not do it but would they miss it ? Why should they do it ? to keep football alive at all levels some of the clubs in the premiershite have been down with us and others.
Fulham,P****e,Portsmouth,Southampton,Man City, Charlton,Newcastle,Bolton,Norwich,Blackburn and more they should remember their roots.

Absofuckinglutely. Many of our greatest institutions were either started by or supported by Philanthropists who realised there was a greater good beyond profit and ego. It's a disgrace that the game we gave to the world is being dismantled in it's birth place by these money-grabbing bastards.

 

[Starry]

Brighton, Wrexham, Donny Rovers, Cambridge United, Darlington, Carlisle United ..... notice the common denominator .... rodue owners who try to profit at the clubs' expenses .... nothing at all to do with a Ridsdale type sitaution!

What is a Ridsdale situation?

 

[clapham_gull]

Talksport do this, they set each presenter up with one argument.

Its got stupid recently, to the point where the "controversial" one is starting to have problems sustaining the argument.

You can safely to bed and ignore anything debated on there. I got caught in the trap and posted on here about an argument that was taking place. Until I tuned in the next night and EXACTLY the same thing happened.. with Houghton again. Do you think they honestly sit down and decide to debate a subject which they disagree on ?

Talksport - TalkBollocks more like - but I do listen to it at work in the afternoon . Charlie Oatway was on this afternoon - first sensible voice I'd heard on there in ages