taking the knee - what are your thoughts

[The Clamp]

a majority of individuals reaching a concensus is "worrying", how so?

It worries racists because it shows them that despite what they’d like to believe, most people believe in equality.

 

[rogersix]

God knows what I suspect the majority of people on this board would make of "Love Thy Neighbour" and early Alf Garnett stuff on TV. !!!
In those days it was humour and sadly these days it's racist

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did you understand alf garnetts humour [MENTION=11191]Pretty pink fairy[/MENTION]?

 

[rogersix]

Funny how there were no protests or riots in America when Lee Rigby was hacked to death in the street by two coloured men !

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that was abnormal

 

[super-seagulls]

Funny how there were no protests or riots in America when Lee Rigby was hacked to death in the street by two coloured men !

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Go back under your rock and have a serious conversation with yourself, before you say something you cannot take back!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

As a fan, to me it’s an element of tokenism, but at the same time it’s over in a couple of seconds and ultimately doesn’t change my ‘Matchday Experience’. As far as I’m concerned it’s a decision made by the players and they’re the ones who are subject to racist abuse, not me.

If it’s acceptable to boo the knee as an expression of free speech, then it’s also acceptable to boo the national anthem if you’re not a monarchist, and the two minute silence before a match on Remembrance Day. I wouldn’t do either of the latter two, therefore I wouldn’t boo the knee either.

Anyone advocating booing the knee should presumable respect someone booing the anthem/silence out of consistency, if they didn’t they would be hypocrites.

True. And I’m certain most of those booing the knee will be the same people who piss their pants when a newsreader expresses their freedom and doesn’t wear a poppy.

 

[NSC Whatabouttery Klaxon]

Funny how there were no protests or riots in America when Lee Rigby was hacked to death in the street by two coloured men !

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You called?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

You called?

Good Stuff.

Now we just need an "NSC False Equivalence Alarm" as well.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I think it’s bollocks but I certainly wouldn’t boo it

I doubt even one person has been influenced and changed their attitude.

I doubt that every footballer agrees with it but the pressure to do it would result in a complete media shit storm if a player didn’t do it.

Wilfried Zaha doesn’t do it.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Those poppies every November: run its course . . . . .

It is on a par with that

The fact there is booing is reason to actively support its continuance.

I hope they carry on with it. Their choice of course. My feeling is, if they stop, the racists will say 'TFFT, they will never win'

I was going to post that if people feel the need to boo it, that is evidence it needs to continue!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Funny how there were no protests or riots in America when Lee Rigby was hacked to death in the street by two coloured men !

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You won’t listen to advice from Brighton fans but maybe you could take notice of Lee Rigby’s mother.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...son-black-lives-matter-protests-a4459966.html

Stop using my son’s name to oppose BLM.

Read the article, and respect her wishes.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

God knows what I suspect the majority of people on this board would make of "Love Thy Neighbour" and early Alf Garnett stuff on TV. !!!
In those days it was humour and sadly these days it's racist

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Alf Garnett was clearly and obviously a ridiculously bigoted figure who was intended to be dismissed as having ridiculous views. The programme actively ridiculed Alf Garnett’s position on just about everything. Did you miss the point?

Love thy neighbour was just rubbish.

 

[Randy McNob]

I think it's jumped on by the dark forces that seek to divide us, the BLM movement has been weaponised by the right, then the easily led jump on the bandwagon

divide and rule....

 

[Albumen]

There’s racism in the game.
The players are showing solidarity.
Get a grip.

 

[Chicken Run]

just wondering what Brighton fans thoughts are currently

I have no issue with it whatsoever, if it helps eradicate racism from football and beyond then brilliant, it’s a couple of seconds that our players have collectively decided to offer and I support them for that.


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[Chicken Run]

**** off & die

Oh dear, a ban is on its way to you, you can’t do that!


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[cunning fergus]

No, it's not.

Well for the vast majority of people it's not. There are those from all sides of the political spectrum who have tried to politicise it for there own agenda.

I am pretty sure we have had U.K. politicians take the knee in support of the BLM protests last year so like it or not those that did made the decision to make it political matter in the U.K. I wonder if they regret it now?

That politicisation should be seen in the context of the 2020 BLM protests where we saw some police take the knee in solidarity with BLM protestors. The police were then violently attacked by BLM protesters. The BLM protests vandalised and pulled down statues (most of them listed) some of which was tacitly supported by politicians some of who are pursuing the removal of more statues etc. All of these events happened when the country was in lockdown. If these aspects individually and in aggregate do not make the BLM issue “political” for many many people you are deluded.

Two weeks following these political events the football establishment, media, players supported the BLM cause, by taking the knee and sporting “Black Lives Matter” on their shirts. The football establishment can say what they want BLM is a political movement in the US and it has a foothold in U.K., long before GF.

Anyone that supports keeping politics out of sport has a justifiable claim to give these pampered kneeling privileged multi millionaires a good booing.

 

[BadFish]

I am pretty sure we have had U.K. politicians take the knee in support of the BLM protests last year so like it or not those that did made the decision to make it political matter in the U.K. I wonder if they regret it now?

That politicisation should be seen in the context of the 2020 BLM protests where we saw some police take the knee in solidarity with BLM protestors. The police were then violently attacked by BLM protesters. The BLM protests vandalised and pulled down statues (most of them listed) some of which was tacitly supported by politicians some of who are pursuing the removal of more statues etc. All of these events happened when the country was in lockdown. If these aspects individually and in aggregate do not make the BLM issue “political” for many many people you are deluded.

Two weeks following these political events the football establishment, media, players supported the BLM cause, by taking the knee and sporting “Black Lives Matter” on their shirts. The football establishment can say what they want BLM is a political movement in the US and it has a foothold in U.K., long before GF.

Anyone that supports keeping politics out of sport has a justifiable claim to give these pampered kneeling privileged multi millionaires a good booing.

You were making this connection on the Marcus Rashford thread too. I will ask the question that you chose to ignore on that thread again.

You have once again suggested that somehow someone's bank balance somehow means that they shouldn't care or can't be affected by racism. So how much do you need to earn?

 

[Guinness Boy]

I am pretty sure we have had U.K. politicians take the knee in support of the BLM protests last year so like it or not those that did made the decision to make it political matter in the U.K. I wonder if they regret it now?

That politicisation should be seen in the context of the 2020 BLM protests where we saw some police take the knee in solidarity with BLM protestors. The police were then violently attacked by BLM protesters. The BLM protests vandalised and pulled down statues (most of them listed) some of which was tacitly supported by politicians some of who are pursuing the removal of more statues etc. All of these events happened when the country was in lockdown. If these aspects individually and in aggregate do not make the BLM issue “political” for many many people you are deluded.

Two weeks following these political events the football establishment, media, players supported the BLM cause, by taking the knee and sporting “Black Lives Matter” on their shirts. The football establishment can say what they want BLM is a political movement in the US and it has a foothold in U.K., long before GF.

Anyone that supports keeping politics out of sport has a justifiable claim to give these pampered kneeling privileged multi millionaires a good booing.

Early morning in Bristol and someone has just opened up the National Socialist Handbook and made straight for the Divide and Rule chapter, sub-topic "some of these uppity people have more money than you"

 

[Starry]

i have no issue with it, they can do what they want. but i do wonder what change they actually hope to achieve from it, and i don't mean the smart soundbites or those booing it outing themselves as pillocks.

i already feel like this taking the knee has become just a thing that happens before a game much like a warm up, like the 'novelty' (for want of a better word) has worn off and we are just going through the motions. perhaps that changes when stadiums are full again.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

It made a very valid global point in the beginning but little has changed in terms of what it has achieved for football reform. Actions speak far louder than gestures. It's run its course.