[Politics] Tactical Voting at the General Election

[AlbionBro]

I find this attitude a little strange . . . . Being a crook and destructive in direct relation to your football team and heart strings is one thing we all agree on, Bellotti was clearly a weapons grade **** and not deserving of the oxygen he breathes. So not voting for the man is exactly the right thing to do.

HOWEVER . . . . . Not voting, for what are quite possibly the most sensible and universally liked political policies 'just because' is idiocy in spades.

Asides apathy . . . 'Grudge ' or 'ill informed dislike for no reason'. is the other reason we're in such a f***ing mess . . . . Thats a universal issue across all political spectrums.

I don't have a party per se, but I will vote to make sure the tories are as far away from any control as possible . . . . To that end, I have and will vote red green or yellow . . . . Depending on who'd most likely to oust them. Who knows, there may come a time when I think differently ( unlikely as I don't consider my self to be that kind of person)

Yes Bellotti and playful Ed with some crazy spending is all a bit too much for me.Normally I'd be definitely Labour, but they just seem too much like the Tories their sums just don't add up either. I am not sure a massive majority from any party will be good for the country either.
I hope you pick the right colour you feel comfortable with. I am not voting as Its just time to let the kids decide, I might not even see the next five years out.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Let's be honest they are all untrustworthy, I have never found so pressurised to vote, and I can't see the way forward. I think I am definitely leaning towards staying at home and cracking a couple of beers open instead. it maybe a more sensible option. As for young Carol, she appears to be letting her anger get the better of her, I hope she is okay.

If you're happy to let others decide what laws you have to abide by, how much you're taxed, whether you can access health care and social services, where and how you live then enjoy your beer, but don't moan later that it's not what you want

 

[AlbionBro]

If you're happy to let others decide what laws you have to abide by, how much you're taxed, whether you can access health care and social services, where and how you live then enjoy your beer, but don't moan later that it's not what you want

I won't be moaning, let the kids decide it's their future, not old boys like me, I am now in the twilight zone.

 

[zefarelly]

If you're happy to let others decide what laws you have to abide by, how much you're taxed, whether you can access health care and social services, where and how you live then enjoy your beer, but don't moan later that it's not what you want

In defence of AlbionBro . . . My step father was ex army, became very anti establishment . . . . And latterly of the same opinion. Derek & CLive were right. They are all 'exactly as described' Out there.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I won't be moaning, let the kids decide it's their future, not old boys like me, I am now in the twilight zone.

My kids would kill me if I didn't vote

 

[LamieRobertson]

Not interested …I believe you should vote on the basis of the person standing you consider the best…..I’ve already written all the candidates names down on separate bits of paper ready to be picked out of a jar

 

[Machiavelli]

I’m concerned that we haven’t seen nothing yet in the bigger picture. Was 1945 to 2015 the age of liberalism in Western Europe and the US to an extent? Demoralising article in the Telegraph, France is just days away from a very right wing coalition that shares Farage’s view on Russia, they’ll pull the plug on 38m Ukrainians. Similarly, the Orange rapist and mate of Putin is favourite to win the US presidency. I’m surprised at how much of the UK chattering classes only have eyes in the world for Britain and Gaza. No interest in the bigger picture.

Farage and many of his Nazi loving candidates make Cameron, Tugenhadt, Rudd, Hunt, Sunak look like the left.

On this occasion I love FPTP, it’s hopefully keeping 100 racists/fascists out of our Commons.

No. 1945-c1979 was the age of social democracy. 1979-2008 was the age of neoliberal financialised globalisation. Since then, nothing's replaced it and we're still stuck in limbo as it won't quite go away but nobody can credibly argue for it any more and, for the moment at least, we have to endure the nativists and essentialists until sufficient numbers can get around an alternative project.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Same here, I'm voting LD but happily go LAB if it was needed

Exactly as I feel.

 

[portlock seagull]

Yes Bellotti and playful Ed with some crazy spending is all a bit too much for me.Normally I'd be definitely Labour, but they just seem too much like the Tories their sums just don't add up either. I am not sure a massive majority from any party will be good for the country either.
I hope you pick the right colour you feel comfortable with. I am not voting as Its just time to let the kids decide, I might not even see the next five years out.

Nobody’s sums ever add up. But if after 15 years of the tories you think they’re still a creditable option then I’m wondering what it will take to rule them out of contention? Personally if Lord Bucket was running in my ward he’s get my vote ahead of the Tory candidate (mine backed Boris to the point of the indefensible and beyond, so she won’t be getting my vote and I told her so at the time because of her poor judgement)

 

[jonny.rainbow]

I’ve had nothing from any candidates. They obviously don’t want my vote.

Pretty sure I’ll be spoiling my ballot paper for this one. Blue Tories making way for the Red Tories. Our electoral system is in great need of reform.

 

[beorhthelm]

No. 1945-c1979 was the age of social democracy. 1979-2008 was the age of neoliberal financialised globalisation. Since then, nothing's replaced it and we're still stuck in limbo as it won't quite go away but nobody can credibly argue for it any more and, for the moment at least, we have to endure the nativists and essentialists until sufficient numbers can get around an alternative project.

the current model is socialised global debt. we're indebted up to the eyeballs, quick fix for politicians is more debt and thats being funded largely by large exporters buying it up. example, we'll shortly be pumping lot of money into energy and high energy consumption industries to prop them up in transition to net zero.

 

[Peteinblack]

No. 1945-c1979 was the age of social democracy. 1979-2008 was the age of neoliberal financialised globalisation. Since then, nothing's replaced it and we're still stuck in limbo as it won't quite go away but nobody can credibly argue for it any more and, for the moment at least, we have to endure the nativists and essentialists until sufficient numbers can get around an alternative project.

One of my favourite political quotes is from the Italian political theorist, Antonio Gramsci, who was imprisoned under Mussolini:

"The old is dying, but the new cannot yet be born. In the interregnum, a variety of morbid symptoms appear."

I think that this is exactly where we are currently.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

The refusal of people to tactically vote gave Johnson an 80 seat majority.

Wonder if people will learn this time

 

[oldboyroy]

Voted tactically when living in Eastbourne but now in King's Norton Birmingham it's labour. I don't agree with all their policies but far better than what the last 14 years have given me.

 

[sparkie]

I'm Anyone-but-Labour, Anyone-but-Tory, and Anyone-but-Reform so my options are somewhat limited tactically or not.

 

[sparkie]

I’m concerned that we haven’t seen nothing yet in the bigger picture. Was 1945 to 2015 the age of liberalism in Western Europe and the US to an extent? Demoralising article in the Telegraph, France is just days away from a very right wing coalition that shares Farage’s view on Russia, they’ll pull the plug on 38m Ukrainians. Similarly, the Orange rapist and mate of Putin is favourite to win the US presidency. I’m surprised at how much of the UK chattering classes only have eyes in the world for Britain and Gaza. No interest in the bigger picture.

Farage and many of his Nazi loving candidates make Cameron, Tugenhadt, Rudd, Hunt, Sunak look like the left.

On this occasion I love FPTP, it’s hopefully keeping 100 racists/fascists out of our Commons.

Macron is in power until 2027 so the French aren't going "Pro-Putin" before then.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Labour will win in my constituency so no point in voting tactically according to the Tory Out guides.

I’ve now received some pamphlets through the door. Out of the three parties I’d vote for, one candidate has announced that they are ‘Brighton Born & Bred’ and ‘An Albion Season Ticket Holder’. An interesting sales technique!

 

[zefarelly]

Yes Bellotti and playful Ed with some crazy spending is all a bit too much for me.Normally I'd be definitely Labour, but they just seem too much like the Tories their sums just don't add up either. I am not sure a massive majority from any party will be good for the country either.
I hope you pick the right colour you feel comfortable with. I am not voting as Its just time to let the kids decide, I might not even see the next five years out.

I don't think anyones sums do add up, the reue depth and scale of destruction is not easy to quantify, nor is it possible to quantify a cost or timescale on repair.

As in 1997, Labour have to take a central line to get into power . . . . the 10 years thay had rom 97 was ther best of my lifetime, at least they actually gave at least a single shit about the majority of people.

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

Tired old arguments - they are all the same, no difference in policy are trotted out. Look closer as there are significant differences in policy. The only difference is we have seen Tory policy in action for fourteen years. But, equally, we need a government of greater integrity and not one of total self interest. If people can't see the difference, as evidenced during the campaign, on that issue alone then they need to have a reality check.

 

[ozzygull]

Will be voting tactically to make sure we don’t get a Tory but it looks like I can vote they way I would anyway to do that.