Tabloids take aim at Hodgson again, this time over 'space monkey' race row

[Barrel of Fun]

If anything, we should feel blessed to have a manager who uses an analogy and could deliver it in 5 different languages.

No. He's racist and has a speech impediment, which is something the red tops love to dwell on.

Who buys or reads these papers?

 

[AZ Gull]

Completely ridiculous on all counts, obviously.

What's intriguing me about this though, is who leaked the story. There can't have been too many people in the England dressing room at half-time so someone must have it in for Woy when trying to stitch him up here.

England probably has the least problem with racism of any footballing country, yet there seems to be a complete obsession with it. I wonder what Talkshite will be talking about for the rest of the day? If I were Woy, take a holiday son, it will all have died down in about a week

All of these. Not often you'll get me and TLO agreeing with bushy but it is not racist and not a story. If anything I love Woy a little bit more after this.

Difficult for The Sun to take the moral high ground on people being offensive when it produces a cover like this, IMO.


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Now that's genuinely offensive.

So.......why DO people refer to Roy Hodgson as "WOY"? Is it because it's actually very funny, and I'm just missing the joke? Is it only offensive if it appears on the front page of a national newspaper, but just "banter" if it's posted on an internet messageboard?

Can anybody help me here?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If anything, we should feel blessed to have a manager who uses an analogy and could deliver it in 5 different languages.

No. He's racist and has a speech impediment, which is something the red tops love to dwell on.

Who buys or reads these papers?

Some posters on Nsc also love to mock his speech impediment.

Don't buy tabloids. I stopped buying papers 20 years ago, because of the content in the majority of them including some broadsheets too.

 

[severnside gull]

this was apparently an analogy emphasising the roles on the pitch of Smalling and Townsend both of whom are black. In the original joke was it specified whether the astronaut was black or white?

I'm trying to find a racial context here

 

[Pavilionaire]

What if the monkey in the original joke was white?

 

[blue'n'white]

Completely and utterly ridiculous story about precisely f@ck all.
Pleased that Townsend has said exactly the same.
Christ almighty I'm fed up with all this rubbish - Hodgson's best day as an England manager and the media try to ruin it

 

[Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews]

"In this day and age you cannot make a reference to 'monkeys' in a mixed race dressing room"


Christ on a fu(king bike!

 

[Seagull over Canaryland]

Completely and utterly ridiculous story about precisely f@ck all.
Pleased that Townsend has said exactly the same.
Christ almighty I'm fed up with all this rubbish - Hodgson's best day as an England manager and the media try to ruin it

Maybe one rather predictable corner of the media up to no good - and interesting that the journo scooping this story is Scots, and someone suggested he is about to become Editor of the Scottish Sun. I suspect/hope he will be in the spotlight for while just to see how politically correct his features are. I've already heard some inappropriate ageist and 'generation gap' comments as well as references to Roy's speech impediment in other media articles commenting on this story, so double standards at work here.

I'm curious that the player allegedly elected to talk to the media rather than have a quiet word with Roy to say 'sorry Boss, I'm concerned about your comments, it had a racial overtone to me that I don't like.....'. Ok I recognise that a young player breaking into the England squad (and hoping to go to the World Cup) might be reluctant to front up to Roy, but talking to the media instead is naïve in the extreme, it was bound to come back and bite him very quickly. I wonder if someone just overheard something and then a keen journo pressed the player(s) into collectively divulging enough to create this 'story'.

 

[16bha]

This is simple...
the racism did not occur when Hodgson told his harmless joke. It occurred when one individual listening decided to link the term monkey with being black.

 

[drew]

So, the next question is who leaked the story to the press. Some said it may just have been a player relaying the joke to journalist friend who then decided to make a meal of it. If that is the case, you would hope the player in question would tell Roy and the FA and then be a little bit more particular about the scum he hangs with. Alternatively, it has been suggested that there was a player who took umbrage and decided there was a racist element to the comments. Surely that can be either Smalling who was being compared to the PR role that the astronaut plays in the joke, ie of less importance than Townsend or maybe a coloured player in the squad who didn't get any time on pitch and may feel that his chance has passed!!! That doesn't exclude the others but why risk your place in the team if it came out you were being underhand about the manager who will chose the 23 for Brazil!!

 

[KJP]

I think Hartlepool United better change their nickname

 

[blue2]

How does this get any air space when the Lewes road works are such a hot topic bloody greens

 

[Barrel of Fun]

"In this day and age you cannot make a reference to 'monkeys' in a mixed race dressing room"


Christ on a fu(king bike!

How are they going to teach evolution in schools with a high amount of black or mixed race pupils?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Check out @_PaulHayward's Tweet: https://twitter.com/_PaulHayward/status/390914410773901312

 

[Barrel of Fun]

We can't even call monkeys monkeys anymore without offending someone. The world is LITERALLY going mental.

The world hasn't gone mad. A select few, with the loudest whines, are the ones who are heard.

There was never any need to apologise or explain oneself, but trial by press and the precious means that the issue was never going to go away.

Kick it out faltered when questioning why there are few black managers and failing to garner support from high profile black players in the t-shirt incident. They're getting themselves back in the press, at the expense of an absolute gent.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

This is simple...
the racism did not occur when Hodgson told his harmless joke. It occurred when one individual listening decided to link the term monkey with being black.

It's also anti-animal. What is wrong with monkeys that association with them is automatically deemed derogatory?

 

[Marxo]

I would think that the fact that Roy told this joke means that the idea of monkeys and race never entered his mind unless he's a complete and utter callous b*st*rd, which I'm sure he's not. The player who is most often the butt of simian jokes is Wayne Rooney, this seems to be completely acceptable on all comedy shows whereas comparing Rebecca Adlington to the reflection on the back of a spoon was widely condemned as being cruel and OTT.

 

[T soprano]

Houston -"we don't have a problem"

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Absolutely ridiculous. Surely only racists who would take offense at something so clear unintended. Also don't think any NEGATIVE connotation in there if you're digging deeper either is there?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I buy it occasionally mainly of there is nothing else on offer (won't buy the mirror. Ever). I buy the Mail actually most days. Read the sports pages and throw the rest of the paper away. The sports write ups are excellent. The rest of the paper is utter nonsense.

Really wish people would stop buying the sun though. It's a badly written comic. No idea what people see in it....

I heard many years ago that the Sun is designed for people with a reading age of 7.