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Tabloids take aim at Hodgson again, this time over 'space monkey' race row



Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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Piara Powar, executive director of Football Against Racism in Europe (Fare), told the BBC: "This was a silly phrase to use in a diverse workforce.
"I think some players will see it as a reflection of the type of language still used by some coaches and some attitudes that still prevail."


^^

We can't even call monkeys monkeys anymore without offending someone. The world is LITERALLY going mental.

Piara Power did also say that there was no evidence that this was a Freudian slip, so I'd quote that part of what he said too for balance.
 




sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
13,415
Hove
I've read and re-read that 'joke' and just don't get it at all on any level.

He who laughs last.... doesn't get the joke.
 


At the moment, this is my two and a half year old Grand Daughters favourite song/rhyme.

I am worried she may be racist.



What should I do NSC?
 


shaolinpunk

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Nov 28, 2005
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Brighton
The chairman of Kick It Out is DEMANDING that the FA investigates.

Maybe requesting actually, rather than demanding, but to the same ends
 


Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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Surely whoever reported this is the real person with racial issues to have even thought of it in that context. I wouldn't have even made the LINK to a racial slur let alone felt the need to publish it.

This is what I was going to put.

It makes me wonder if the player in question has ever been to a zoo, what on earth happens when you get close to the monkey enclosure!

This really is mental, just because monkey has previously been used as a racial slur by a minority of people are none of us allowed to use that word ever again in any context :shrug:
 




Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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I don't think it would have been leaked.

What's happened is that someone has shared with a reporter the story Roy told to get the players focused and they've done it innocently because, like most sane people, they wouldn't see an issue. The hack in question has then thought, great I can twist that to create a story.

Journalists are scum. (not all, but too many are)

"Don't tell my mother I'm a journalist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse."

Apparently not. The hack in question was on talksport this morning to say the player specifically phoned him to leak this story because he was offended by it.
 


Apparently not. The hack in question was on talksport this morning to say the player specifically phoned him to leak this story because he was offended by it.

Then that player is a total ignoramus, or the Journo is lying.

I know which one I think it is.
 


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Piara Power did also say that there was no evidence that this was a Freudian slip, so I'd quote that part of what he said too for balance.
oh leave off ,are you giving any credence whatsoever that it could have been a freudian slip ? balance my left bollok,its because of people like you that give these twots houseroom that we're at the stage where an innocent analogy , i.e your job is to pass to townsend, 'offends' a footballer who has been brought up in a culture that actively looks for things to be offended at.
 




symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
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So we cannot use the term Cheeky Monkey or Monkeying About anymore, which has probably been used by every parent.

Let alone all the other monkey phrases

not give a monkey's
monkey business
grease monkey
I'll be a monkey's uncle
monkey see, monkey do
powder monkey
code monkey
three Wise Monkeys
get the monkey off your back
Speak to the organ grinder not the monkey
never monkey with another monkey's monkey
going ape
 








Greg Bobkin

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Gordon 'not so' Smart. A total waste of space. Can't wait to hear what Harry's got to say on the matter.

If it is true and one of the players has run to the tabloids over something so ridiculous, they should never play for England again.

Ah, the newly appointed editor of the Scottish Sun. Suddenly it all makes a bit more sense...

Stupid footballer for leaking the story (if they did); stupid newspaper for running with it. Horrible, horrible paper, that.
 


nicko31

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Complete non story. Total nonsense.

First it was having a go over Adrian Childs over a so called Polish racial slur, now this...

The tabloid business model is on borrowed time, anything to borrow at bit more time.
 


Gwm

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Oct 25, 2011
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Dan Walker has tweeted

@mrdanwalker: Now this will annoy a lot of you but... it has become clear that there is more to this Hodgson story than meets the eye.

Then

@mrdanwalker: I am unable to relay the whole story but the 'truth', although not damning, is apparently different to what we are being told.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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:FFSParr:

So bloody annoying.

Apparently Roy told a joke at half time about an astronaut and a monkey in space as an analogy for Smalling's chief responsibility when in possession being to pass to Townsend if he can

An odd half time teamtalk, sure, but this is the joke:
“NASA decided they’d finally send a man up in a capsule after sending only monkeys in the earlier missions,” the joke goes.
“They fire the man and the monkey into space.
“The intercom crackles, ‘Monkey, fire the retros.’
“A little later, ‘Monkey, check the solid fuel supply.’
“Later still, “Monkey, check the life support systems for the man.’
“The astronaut takes umbrage and radioes NASA, ‘When do I get to do something?’
“NASA replies, ‘In 15 minutes – feed the monkey.'"


So, is it a legitimate race row? Or another mudslinging exercise to try and force Roy out so the "people's choice" 'Arry Redknapp can take over?

Crap joke, I was expecting the punch line to involve LAUNCHING the ball.
 




Blackadder

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Jul 6, 2003
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I would boycott The Sun, if I bought it.... but people do (and quite a few).
 


crodonilson

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Jan 17, 2005
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Just heard Peter Herbert on the radio demanding the FA take action over this and Hodgson stand down for the good of the country.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
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Then why the proviso that they should quote that part for 'balance' ?

Because he was trying to point out that the guys quote was not completely anti-hodgson in the way that he stated that he didn't think it was a F-slip in any way. That was the balance part.
 


sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
13,415
Hove
Just heard Peter Herbert on the radio demanding the FA take action over this and Hodgson stand down for the good of the country.


Let's get someone in who doesn't speak English, then we won't have this problem with 'jokes' that the press can print.
 


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