Sweaties at it Again

[beorhthelm]

Don't blame them, one little bit. They voted strongly for Remain, and don't want huge decisions about the future of their nation being taken with no regard to their wishes.

the irony of course is they were told last time they couldnt just walk into the EU club. they'll have to apply, prepare and join up like any other country, taking several years. and they'll have to adopt the Euro. and their economic deficit means they wouldnt be allowed in anyway.

 

[Insel affe]

 

[DataPoint]

Don't blame them, one little bit. They voted strongly for Remain, and don't want huge decisions about the future of their nation being taken with no regard to their wishes.

You're right! So England get to vote in their referendum then? - A huge decision about the future of England.

 

[DataPoint]

Anyone but England!

 

[Soulman]

Maybe us and Wales and NI can have a referendum.The EU will not want Scotland and they are in financial trouble so may be good if they leave.

 

[Buzzer]

If Scotland declared independence then it would automatically become one of the poorest nations in Western Europe. About ten years ago it's budget deficit was similar to the UK as a whole but now it runs at nearly 10% compared to UK's 4%. That places it with a higher deficit than even the Greeks and with oil and gas exploration at almost record lows that could well increase further. They get an extra £1200 per head compared to the rest of the UK and bring in £400 per head less revenue.

If they got independence then they would be taking on a proportion of the national debt with no Sterling currency and with no chance of joining the Euro with a budget deficit at that level. In short they'd be f*cked with a Mickey Mouse currency that even the North Koreans would laugh at.

The SNP don't want independence anyway, Sturgeon knows that a second referendum won't happen and she's playing to all her nasty little racist fans in lieu of actually running a devolved Scotland. She moans about English austerity but her party have had the power to rais taxes by up to 3% since the late 90s but they have never ever once done so or even looked at this because that would mean having to make unpopular but necessary decisions and be accountable for them. They'd much rather wallow in their victim culture.

I say call their bluff. Just look how much better off we'd be without them and it would finally mean no more Salmond and Sturgeon spouting their nonsense on the news.

 

[pasty]

Good luck Scotland without your substantial central government funding! Good news for the rest of the UK as we can use the money saved from not having to prop up the Scottish economy to offset some of the pain caused by Brexit. Can't wait to see them become a poor insignificant nation and then come back to the Union with their begging bowl.

Surely a post-brexit UK won't need to save any more money as we will have the £350M a week Boris and Co. said we give to the EU back won't we?

 

[Machiavelli]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-37634338

Wee Jimmy doing an EU - keep repeating the question until you get the right answer?

This really must be a lie, because whenever it was mentioned that this was a likely scenario before June 23rd, we were all told that oil prices were plunging* and they'd never be able to afford independence without a bumper North Sea bonus.


* they're not now

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

The SNP was quite happy for a foreign country (the Scottish) to prop up a labour government if that possibility had played out in the general election. That is in spite of an overwhelming number of votes in England for the Tory party.

One rule for one, one rule for others. They are complete hypocrites.

 

[jakarta]

This really must be a lie, because whenever it was mentioned that this was a likely scenario before June 23rd, we were all told that oil prices were plunging* and they'd never be able to afford independence without a bumper North Sea bonus.


* they're not now

The North Sea is never going to deliver a bumper bonus ever again, it is too mature and expensive to get the remaining oil out at a substantive return.

Still, I only worked in the Oil & Gas Sector on the North Sea for 25 years, what do I know?

 

[Diego Napier]

have seen the place become more and more Anti English over the 25 years I worked up there.

So it's your fault!

 

[jakarta]

So it's your fault!

I'll admit it, I refused to eat deep fried pizza...

 

[beorhthelm]

I say call their bluff. Just look how much better off we'd be without them and it would finally mean no more Salmond and Sturgeon spouting their nonsense on the news.

i like the Scots, and we've been a stronger nation with them. but i've really grown tied of all the bleating, and think this referendum will be great: if they win thanks and farewell; if they lose it will put it to bed for a couple of generations.

 

[jakarta]

i like the Scots, and we've been a stronger nation with them. but i've really grown tied of all the bleating, and think this referendum will be great: if they win thanks and farewell; if they lose it will put it to bed for a couple of generations.

Well they 'lost' just a couple of years ago and it clearly hasn't put it to bed.

Let them go I say, they think they will be Norway, they will more likely be Greece.

 

[GT49er]

Her much more dignified predecessor Alex Salmond said after the last Scottish independence referendum that that was it for a generation - but unfortunately that dignity has not been passed on to the Poison Dwarf.
Roll on Article 50, after which Scotland, like the rest of us, will be out of the EU, with no option to return. If - and it's a big if - Scotland did get a referendum and broke away from the umbrella and support of the UK, they would have to apply for membership of the EU from scratch.
No special deal.
Full Schengen (sorry if spelling wrong).
Open borders (except or the one which the subsidies from England currently cross).
The Euro.
Inexorable move towards becoming an anonymous part of the US of Europe.

That should settle the Poison Dwarf's hash!

 

[beorhthelm]

This really must be a lie, because whenever it was mentioned that this was a likely scenario before June 23rd, we were all told that oil prices were plunging* and they'd never be able to afford independence without a bumper North Sea bonus.


* they're not now

their sums didnt add up when oil was >$100, in the new world of fracking its unlikely we'll see that again.

 

[beorhthelm]

Well they 'lost' just a couple of years ago and it clearly hasn't put it to bed.

two lost elections so close together, no one will touch it for decades.

 

[penny's harmonica]

two lost elections so close together, no one will touch it for decades.

Agreed. All conditions are ideal for a successful second vote. If it failed again it would be hard to imagine what might justifiably trigger a third vote.

 

[Murray 17]

If Scotland declared independence then it would automatically become one of the poorest nations in Western Europe. About ten years ago it's budget deficit was similar to the UK as a whole but now it runs at nearly 10% compared to UK's 4%. That places it with a higher deficit than even the Greeks and with oil and gas exploration at almost record lows that could well increase further. They get an extra £1200 per head compared to the rest of the UK and bring in £400 per head less revenue.

If they got independence then they would be taking on a proportion of the national debt with no Sterling currency and with no chance of joining the Euro with a budget deficit at that level. In short they'd be f*cked with a Mickey Mouse currency that even the North Koreans would laugh at.

The SNP don't want independence anyway, Sturgeon knows that a second referendum won't happen and she's playing to all her nasty little racist fans in lieu of actually running a devolved Scotland. She moans about English austerity but her party have had the power to rais taxes by up to 3% since the late 90s but they have never ever once done so or even looked at this because that would mean having to make unpopular but necessary decisions and be accountable for them. They'd much rather wallow in their victim culture.

I say call their bluff. Just look how much better off we'd be without them and it would finally mean no more Salmond and Sturgeon spouting their nonsense on the news.

Well said that man!

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

All 5 latest polls have NO ahead by 5-6%