porkdog
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Much obliged, i've only ever heard it being said around sussex mainly by older men
'Were you born in Yapton'?....a question posed to people who never closed the door behind them!
a sussex half? when i worked at a bar the old boys used to ask for that - it basically means if you have drunk 3/4 of the pint have it re-filled to the top but only pay for a half. i think.
Is there anywhere out there that still lets you get away with this?
The Kings Head in Fishersgate was great for that a few years ago.
Most of the pubs i use measure it in a half pint glass then tip it in
I suspect that your Grand Grandfather may have been a seafairing man.
From memory if you are general service in the Royal Navy the watch between 0800 and 1200 is called the 'Forenoon'. The watch between 0400 and 0800 is the morning watch.
Strangely the watch between 1600 and 1800 is called the first Dog, the last Dog is between 1800 and 2000. Collectively known as the 'Dog watch'.
I really must get a life
a sussex half? when i worked at a bar the old boys used to ask for that - it basically means if you have drunk 3/4 of the pint have it re-filled to the top but only pay for a half. i think.
My father had the residue of a Sussex rural accent. eg, pronouncing "down" more like "deouwn." And he used a few words which weren't in any dictionary. eg a verb "rafe" [ sp?] as in "Look at that fire, rafing away!", to express disapproval at burning too much coke in the boiler.
And a few odd expressions too: If a paint run on a door panel was barely noticeable, then "A blind man would be glad to see it!" And he would mock my mother's occasional lack of dexterity as "Awkward as a cow with a musket!"
And try telling me that one isn't old. But, is it actually Sussex? Anyone?
I grew up in Littlehampton nd was using the word munter in the mid 1990's - I never stopped to think that it wasn't used elsewhere at the time.
Another word that was in use around the same time, but far more bizarre, was calling a womans breasts "washers"...pronouncing the ash bit as you would the name of the tree and not like osh...for some reason that word never managed to rival tits, boobs or knockers.
Yes I have asked for many a Sussex half in my time and on a few occasions have got one!
"Five and twenty" for "25" is obviously based on reading Arabic numerals from right to left. It's a relic of the days when your ancestors read everything from right to left and is proof of the fact that they were originally Muslim immigrants.
There's nothing particularly Sussex about it.
I worked as a barman at the Northern and also the William Tell and if it was busy you would just fill the glass to the top instead of poncing about with a half pint glass. When the pub wasn't busy it was normally only the regulars who were given a "generous" half.
Independent verification on this one! Often used by me and my buddies in rural E Sussex; late 70s-early 80s.
However it was - from memory - more a case of offering your 2/3 or 3/4 drunk pint to the bar person, asking for a half and then seeing what they did.
If you got your original glass filled up to the brim you could cheerfully announce that you'd got "A Sussex half". If they measured it out in a half pint glass separately they were described in somewhat unflattering terms.