Sussex by the Sea V Men of Harlech

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Monsieur Le Plonk

Lethargy in motion
Apr 22, 2009
1,862
By a lake
Well said.
I personally don't get the resistance to having the words displayed.
To hear OUR song delivered week in week out at a volume that would leave a lump in my throat then I think I can deal with being named 'tinpot' by a few of our internet uberfans.
 




Everest

Me
Jul 5, 2003
20,741
Southwick
This was discussed. I even created a video with the words.

Club didn't want to know.

In 2011 I produced a video showing some classic Brighton goals of years gone by to Craig Armstrong's 'Escape'. Oddly, several months later the club did their own version that now plays before every home game at the Amex. Same music.. same clips.. many of which are in the same order..

So I guess they like some of my ideas, just not the GOSBTS one,

Maybe because it's actually called Sussex By The Sea
 


Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,679
In a pile of football shirts
We've had this discussion before. Everybody wants to change something. Some don't like the 'out of date' music and some don't like the 'out of date' words. I have an element of sympathy on that score: 'Gay' has obviously changed meaning, and I bet very few of us 'plough and sow and reap and mow' for a living - and some of us aren't even 'useful'. And some who sing it aren't even men!

Personally I think the words (except for the chorus) are all pretty poor, but you've just got to take the rough with the smooth. It IS out of date, but we'll never agree on a re-write so lets just sing it 'as is' and be proud of Sussex and the Royal Sussex Regiment. And also let's be grateful that our club anthem is not some bit of 1960s dross by the Dave Clarke Five.

To be fair, not all of the people singing at the City of Cardiff Stadium are from Harlech, nor are their "Barbed steeds proudly prancing", and I have never seen their "Helmets in the sunbeams glancing glitter through the trees" either.

Oh, and it's 150 miles from Harlech to Cardiff, at least the Amex is in Sussex.
 


Stat Brother

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
We've had this discussion before. Everybody wants to change something. Some don't like the 'out of date' music and some don't like the 'out of date' words. I have an element of sympathy on that score: 'Gay' has obviously changed meaning, and I bet very few of us 'plough and sow and reap and mow' for a living - and some of us aren't even 'useful'. And some who sing it aren't even men!

Personally I think the words (except for the chorus) are all pretty poor, but you've just got to take the rough with the smooth. It IS out of date, but we'll never agree on a re-write so lets just sing it 'as is' and be proud of Sussex and the Royal Sussex Regiment. And also let's be grateful that our club anthem is not some bit of 1960s dross by the Dave Clarke Five.
But if any team has a useful male gay farm labourer, as a supporter, it has to be us and we should sing about him.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
I think it'd be great if the words were put up, at least until the majority learned at least 1 verse of the proper version. I don't give a shit what fans of any other club think.
 






Dan Aitch

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May 31, 2013
2,287
I'd prefer it if those who make the effort to sing the plough/sow/reap/mow/useful bit sang it to the correct part of the tune.
 


To be fair, not all of the people singing at the City of Cardiff Stadium are from Harlech, nor are their "Barbed steeds proudly prancing", and I have never seen their "Helmets in the sunbeams glancing glitter through the trees" either.

Oh, and it's 150 miles from Harlech to Cardiff, at least the Amex is in Sussex.
At least that confirms which version of the words they sing in Cardiff. There are two quite different English language versions. Which probably justifies putting the words on display. An Irish speaking nun taught me the "barbed steeds" version at primary school.
 






I think it'd be great if the words were put up, at least until the majority learned at least 1 verse of the proper version. I don't give a shit what fans of any other club think.

It only needs to be the first verse.

Now is the time for marching,
Now let your hearts be gay,
Hark to the merry bugles
Sounding along our way.
So let your voices ring, my boys,
And take the time from me,
And I’ll sing you a song as we march along
Of Sussex by the Sea

Oh Sussex, Sussex by the Sea!
Good old Sussex by the Sea!
You may tell them all we stand or fall,
For Sussex by the Sea.


Please let this happen.
 


Southwick_Seagull

Well-known member
Oct 8, 2008
2,035
The main issue last night was that even if Cardiff fans were singing the words they were piping it in so loud across the PA you couldn't hear them.
 




Kuipers Supporters Club

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2009
5,770
GOSBTS
Spoke to Barber and Bloom about this at the start of the season - NWSS Meeting - where Barber said he was basically behind the idea ' and if you don't like it, don't look'
 


Frutos

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May 3, 2006
36,304
Northumberland
I know this has been debated before but if Cardiff can put the words on the big screen for Men of Harlech why can't we do it for Sussex by the Sea?

Absolutely agree.

And on that subject, convince FBS to mix it for us.

Absolutely ****ing not. It does not need remixing.
 


symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
It only needs to be the first verse.

Now is the time for marching,
Now let your hearts be gay,
Hark to the merry bugles
Sounding along our way.
So let your voices ring, my boys,
And take the time from me,
And I’ll sing you a song as we march along
Of Sussex by the Sea

Oh Sussex, Sussex by the Sea!
Good old Sussex by the Sea!
You may tell them all we stand or fall,
For Sussex by the Sea.


Please let this happen.

Like it or not, the gay bit will always be a stumbling block. It just doesn't mean the same these days and it is used globally.

Change that line to something like "Now open your hearts and play" and more will join in for the whole song.
 




fleet

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2003
12,248
And the PA was so loud! It was intimidating - we need to do similar. I was impressed with it even if none of the locals actually joined in (which they didn't)
 


spongy

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Aug 7, 2011
2,780
Burgess Hill
Like it or not, the gay bit will always be a stumbling block. It just doesn't mean the same these days and it is used globally.

Change that line to something like "Now open your hearts and play" and more will join in for the whole song.

I don't think it will be a stumbling block myself, anyone with half a brain cell knows that the word has changed meaning, for me it's a case of heritage and I belt it out as loud as I can every game, home or away.

If anyone feels insecure about that line then they need a shake and a wake up. It's words to a song, and if fans of others clubs want to mock it then it will only make me sing it louder and prouder. Who gives a **** if others fans find it funny? It's our song, it's unique to us. Let them mock, it should only work to unite us even more.
 


I don't think it will be a stumbling block myself, anyone with half a brain cell knows that the word has changed meaning, for me it's a case of heritage and I belt it out as loud as I can every game, home or away.

If anyone feels insecure about that line then they need a shake and a wake up. It's words to a song, and if fans of others clubs want to mock it then it will only make me sing it louder and prouder. Who gives a **** if others fans find it funny? It's our song, it's unique to us. Let them mock, it should only work to unite us even more.

This.
 


Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,761
at home
This was discussed. I even created a video with the words.

Club didn't want to know.

In 2011 I produced a video showing some classic Brighton goals of years gone by to Craig Armstrong's 'Escape'. Oddly, several months later the club did their own version that now plays before every home game at the Amex. Same music.. same clips.. many of which are in the same order..

So I guess they like some of my ideas, just not the GOSBTS one,

Sue them!!!
 




AnotherArch

Northern Exile
Apr 2, 2009
1,198
Stockport & M62
Because of the intimidating volume that it was played at (impressive!), playing Sussex By The Sea at the same volume might brainwash more to sing AND, more importantly, brainwash everyone into SINGING AT THE RIGHT SPEED !
 


Hotchilidog

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2009
9,120
And the PA was so loud! It was intimidating - we need to do similar. I was impressed with it even if none of the locals actually joined in (which they didn't)

It was all rather unnerving, nearly spilt my pint when they played it before the second half.
 


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