Surely Palace can't... 16/17

[Papa Lazarou]

The official Palace line, being peddled furiously on BBS, is that Albion are buying promotion. Does that mean that Palace are buying safety?

As shown by our transfer window madness..

 

[Hotchilidog]

As shown by our transfer window madness..

Yes indeed, bought someone we've already got and bought in two premier youth teamers. With profligacy like that I can see parsimonious clubs such as Palace looking on jealously with thier non-existent transfer activity.

 

[Swillis]

My point is that our losses are the result of spending on infrastructure - that is, investment - whereas your losses, which caused you to enter administration twice, could not be attributed to such forward planning. Even when you have hundreds of millions of pounds to spend, you neglect your infrastructure.

So your wage bill has not shot up by millions then?

 

[Swillis]

To be fair you bring up a good point, but there is a few differences, we have spent Mr Bloom's money on securing our future, ensuring that we do not go under or god forbid an admin. If you understand football finance, then if you I both take off our Blue and Red and Blue and white tinted glasses, where would you rather be financially ?, spending loads of money on players and wages, who frankly do not give a damn about your club, or spending on an infrastructure for future generations of fans to go and enjoy the wonderful facilities and watching a team which wins quite a bit. I have a few Palace mates who are not happy with the situation of spend spend spend and they feel that your owner is running the club like a fan, with added pressure from the yanks, think how that ended last time with the failed mobile phone salesman. Blooms money is an investment from the heart, not like your owners who only are looking for profit. We can also be confident of getting some major money in from the Property deal which is under way with 600 houses and Ikea on our land, again good money for the club. I actually feel sad for my mates who like you are just supporters of a club and feel worried about the future of their club. In summary we are investing, within FFP rules, unlike lots of other clubs in our league and where will our clubs be in 5 years time?, I know where my money is on. I actually don't want you to go down or go bust/admin again, as we could be playing each other again, which is something I would enjoy, although, I would never go to Selhurst again, until the Met treat me as a human being and we can sit/stand is surroundings that are acceptable.

I agree the money we spend on wages and players is sickening, but then again it's the league we are in. I remember saying on here before that the premier league is not all it has cracked upto be, but the idea of football is to go as high as possible so we have no choice really. Our undoing has been trying to improve, we have lost the core of a very good team. A team who were not only fast at attacking but also had players who actually gave a shit about winning or losing. It was not Parish's fault that Pulis went but to then bring in Pardew and keep him so long was unforgivable in my opinion. To then replace him with Allardyce was in a way a good move survival wise but I personally cannot stand him, greedy *******.
I still believe all we need is a good manager and we still have very good players, but to be fair Pardew destroyed them.
Now I will get jumped on for saying this but I don't believe that Bloom is just a fan, I believe he is a businessman first and foremost. You mention the 600 new homes, how much will that make him? Then he may have a premier league club with a large fan base. I don't believe he is doing it out of purely philanthropic reasons otherwise he could have bailed you before.
In much the same way that Parish and the other three could have bailed us out, but then they would not have owned the club.
If we did go down now it would be a sticky situation but then again that so the same for most clubs that are relegated. Even if you have 30k fans every week that does not cover tens of millions in player wages.
As for the infrastructure it has gone quiet on the new ground front, but I'm led to believe that is more to do with where the ground would be rather than the funding for the ground. But if we are relegated I'm sure that won't happen anyway.

 

[Swillis]

Oh and it doesn't surprise me that several of the Nigels are going big on this thread today - the second they'd seen we'd signed 16 goal Glenn permanantly their hearts must have sank. Such a kick in the balls after all their gloating about him signing for them as a free agent.

Oh and the brilliance of FFS MURRAY now being used against them couldn't have scripted it better. So much better than £30 mil Benteke too

Yes oh how you must have laughed. A player you let go for free, who then went to your rival and got them promoted with 30 goals. A player they then sold on for millions, only for you to then spend millions to get him back. Yeah you certainly had the last laugh there.

 

[bobbysmith01]

I agree the money we spend on wages and players is sickening, but then again it's the league we are in. I remember saying on here before that the premier league is not all it has cracked upto be, but the idea of football is to go as high as possible so we have no choice really. Our undoing has been trying to improve, we have lost the core of a very good team. A team who were not only fast at attacking but also had players who actually gave a shit about winning or losing. It was not Parish's fault that Pulis went but to then bring in Pardew and keep him so long was unforgivable in my opinion. To then replace him with Allardyce was in a way a good move survival wise but I personally cannot stand him, greedy *******.
I still believe all we need is a good manager and we still have very good players, but to be fair Pardew destroyed them.
Now I will get jumped on for saying this but I don't believe that Bloom is just a fan, I believe he is a businessman first and foremost. You mention the 600 new homes, how much will that make him? Then he may have a premier league club with a large fan base. I don't believe he is doing it out of purely philanthropic reasons otherwise he could have bailed you before.
In much the same way that Parish and the other three could have bailed us out, but then they would not have owned the club.
If we did go down now it would be a sticky situation but then again that so the same for most clubs that are relegated. Even if you have 30k fans every week that does not cover tens of millions in player wages.
As for the infrastructure it has gone quiet on the new ground front, but I'm led to believe that is more to do with where the ground would be rather than the funding for the ground. But if we are relegated I'm sure that won't happen anyway.

A very good response and in reply would say that Bloom is both a fan and a business man, which is a good mixture. I have no idea how much him or the club will make from the property deal, but is very significant. Think he only came on board after he could afford to fund the ground and understand that he was helping out during the withdean days and think it was his 300k which brought Murray. I personally disagree that in football it's important to go as high as possible, we are a community football club and happy to playing at a level we can afford to be, think this is the big difference between the 2 clubs, you want success at any cost, not a criticism, just a difference.


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[papajaff]

Yes oh how you must have laughed blah blah blah

**** off and get a life you boring ****

 

[Sweeney Todd]

Yes oh how you must have laughed. A player you let go for free, who then went to your rival and got them promoted with 30 goals. A player they then sold on for millions, only for you to then spend millions to get him back. Yeah you certainly had the last laugh there.

He joined Palace only because, somehow, just a few months after coming out of administration, they were able to pay him significantly more than Albion could. But then who knows who we might have been able to buy had we not suffered the inconvenience of having to pay our debts.

 

[CPFC G]

A very good response and in reply would say that Bloom is both a fan and a business man, which is a good mixture. I have no idea how much him or the club will make from the property deal, but is very significant. Think he only came on board after he could afford to fund the ground and understand that he was helping out during the withdean days and think it was his 300k which brought Murray. I personally disagree that in football it's important to go as high as possible, we are a community football club and happy to playing at a level we can afford to be, think this is the big difference between the 2 clubs, you want success at any cost, not a criticism, just a difference.


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Community club playing at a level we can afford You lost £25m in your last sets of accounts.

 

[bobbysmith01]

Community club playing at a level we can afford You lost £25m in your last sets of accounts.

As you spend half you life on here you think you might understand a bit more. Sorry don't have time to explain our finances, but thanks for the advice from a fan of the only club ever to have 2 admins. We are in a very good position thank you, a lot better than you as we have good assets and not holding contracts of players earning fortunes and a possibility of relegation and a crumbling ground, with owners who want a profit. You have constantly overspent to try and be bigger than you are, we have spent money building a community football club which serves the good people of Sussex. Where will
You be in 5 years time? another admin maybe, where will be? I think in a much better position than you.


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[SAC]

The official Palace line, being peddled furiously on BBS, is that Albion are buying promotion. Does that mean that Palace are buying safety?

I'd say both quotes are true, however not unique to either club. Perhaps trying to buy is more accurate though as neither is a given.

 

[Del Fenner]

I believe last night was palace's first clean sheet since Boxing Day 2015.

Mistaken belief can be such a let down. Some believe that Brighton are PL ready and that CMS was an upgrade on FFS.

[try inserting the word "away"]

 

[CPFC G]

As you spend half you life on here you think you might understand a bit more. Sorry don't have time to explain our finances, but thanks for the advice from a fan of the only club ever to have 2 admins. We are in a very good position thank you, a lot better than you as we have good assets and not holding contracts of players earning fortunes and a possibility of relegation and a crumbling ground, with owners who want a profit. You have constantly overspent to try and be bigger than you are, we have spent money building a community football club which serves the good people of Sussex. Where will
You be in 5 years time? another admin maybe, where will be? I think in a much better position than you.


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You were talking bollox and rightly got pulled up on it, Stop waffling.

 

[Stat Brother]

Mistaken belief can be such a let down. Some believe that Brighton are PL ready and that CMS was an upgrade on FFS.

[try inserting the word "away"]

Fair enough, it didn't seem right when my palace supporting colleague mentioned it today.
What are your stats for clean sheets, in the league?

 

[loz]

Mistaken belief can be such a let down. Some believe that Brighton are PL ready and that CMS was an upgrade on FFS.

[try inserting the word "away"]

Well, thats not quite corect either.

FA cup 2016

Spurs 0, Palace 1
Reading 0, Palace 2

2017

Bolton 0, Palace 0

So not brillant but 3 there off the top of the head.

 

[Del Fenner]

Good point, all in the Cups.

I thought Br. Stat was referring to League, last clean sheet the 3-0 at home to Southampton on 3rd December.

 

[lawros left foot]

Mistaken belief can be such a let down. Some believe that Brighton are PL ready and that CMS was an upgrade on FFS.

[try inserting the word "away"]

Same as a large number of you believed Pardew was a great manager, who won or lead you into Europe. Any fan of any team can pick out mistakes their rivals have made, you don't have to be that clever to do it.

 

[bobbysmith01]

You were talking bollox and rightly got pulled up on it, Stop waffling.

Am I? Think you should look back at some of your thousands of time wasting posts and see who waffles and talks bollox, think you might win that. Or better still get a life and stop trying to defend a club with no morales and post on own site and leave us to have good debates without being infiltrated by people from other clubs who accuse us of talking bollox, when my dear boy, you invented the term.


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[Swillis]

A very good response and in reply would say that Bloom is both a fan and a business man, which is a good mixture. I have no idea how much him or the club will make from the property deal, but is very significant. Think he only came on board after he could afford to fund the ground and understand that he was helping out during the withdean days and think it was his 300k which brought Murray. I personally disagree that in football it's important to go as high as possible, we are a community football club and happy to playing at a level we can afford to be, think this is the big difference between the 2 clubs, you want success at any cost, not a criticism, just a difference.


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I don't think we want success at any cost, in fact we almost got it by accident. I would hazard a guess that our squad that was promoted cost less than half what your current one does. Maybe even less. But when you get to the premier league you are sort of in a trap, you need that 100 million+ to keep paying players silly wages and to keep getting that 100 million+ you need to keep paying players silly wages. It's ridiculous really.
Also surely football is about going as high as you can, otherwise what's the point in competition really. What exactly would be the purpose?
As for the money side of things, six hundred homes(if that's right) is a massive amount of money. The profit on homes in London and the south east(even the south in general) is enormous.
This season it looks like you have the premier league to come anyway. Quite surreal to see some bloke running around earning your yearly income in about three weeks.

 

[Stat Brother]

Good point, all in the Cups.

I thought Br. Stat was referring to League, last clean sheet the 3-0 at home to Southampton on 3rd December.

You're selling yourself short.

You could have also pointed to palace's purple patch of the 9th and 13th of April 2016

v Everton
v Norwich.

Then 25.12.15

v Swansea.


So my palace colleague was wrong by 4 games.

Well done you.