Leekbrookgull
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[Football] Sunderland sack Ross.
- Thread starter Leekbrookgull
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Like the stat in the link:
“Of current teams within the top four tiers of English league football, only Liverpool (1) and Manchester City (6) have lost fewer league games (excl. playoffs) than Sunderland (7) since Jack Ross was appointed.”
So during his time there, he’s arguably been the third most successful manager across all four English leagues. And he still gets sacked!
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“Of current teams within the top four tiers of English league football, only Liverpool (1) and Manchester City (6) have lost fewer league games (excl. playoffs) than Sunderland (7) since Jack Ross was appointed.”
So during his time there, he’s arguably been the third most successful manager across all four English leagues. And he still gets sacked!
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crodonilson
He/Him
Alec McLeish and Kevin Phillips early front runners for the gig.
Looks extremely harsh from the outside looking in.
Looks extremely harsh from the outside looking in.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Barnsley have binned off Stendel today as well, 11 games in. The bloke who got them automatic promotion last season.
Sunderland have lost just twice this season, and are 6th in the table.
RIDICULOUSLY trigger-happy boards.
Sunderland have lost just twice this season, and are 6th in the table.
RIDICULOUSLY trigger-happy boards.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Just on Barnsley, this is the official club statement (in full):
"Barnsley Football Club confirms that it has separated from Daniel Stendel with immediate effect. Adam Murray has been appointed caretaker manager."
Wow. Not even a thank you or an acknowledgement for all the success he brought them last season, or a good luck for the future. Wonder if summink went on there.
"Barnsley Football Club confirms that it has separated from Daniel Stendel with immediate effect. Adam Murray has been appointed caretaker manager."
Wow. Not even a thank you or an acknowledgement for all the success he brought them last season, or a good luck for the future. Wonder if summink went on there.
Ninja Elephant
Doctor Elephant
- Feb 16, 2009
- 18,855
Sunderland somehow managed to pick up 85 points last season, but finish 5th! Crazy season in League 1, he's been very unlucky there. Not a great surprise for Sunderland to make such a decision though - maybe this is inspired by needing drama and conflict for their third season documentary...
All that being said - we're all guilty here of the type of comments people were making about our own firing of Hughton. We'd stayed up and made an FA Cup semi-final, so on the face of it, we should all have been happy. But the reality was that the team was far weaker than the sum of its parts and we had an uninspiring manager with no long term plan to do anything other than stay up each season, which was out of keeping with the general level of ambition at the club.
All that being said - we're all guilty here of the type of comments people were making about our own firing of Hughton. We'd stayed up and made an FA Cup semi-final, so on the face of it, we should all have been happy. But the reality was that the team was far weaker than the sum of its parts and we had an uninspiring manager with no long term plan to do anything other than stay up each season, which was out of keeping with the general level of ambition at the club.
Exactly. Fans there felt he'd gone as far as he could, even after the play off final. To be fair, they have a huge fan base and have only spent one other stint in the third tier, they do expect better and it's probably not unreasonable for a club that size.
Hove Lagoonery
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- Dec 16, 2008
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Good Post, considering the criticism we got for sacking Chris.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
The takeover is off for now.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10091320/sunderland-takeover-off-american/
wakeytom
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Not sure where that has come from, the owner has been out today and said that discussions are still ongoing! Strange timing with a match tonight as well, something is clearly going on in the background. I actually didnt mind him as much as some but far too many draws, he just didnt seem to have the way to kill off games. With the team we had last season and the wages we were paying its not too much to expect to go up although I know the reality of football is something very different and no one deserves to
Mr Banana
Tedious chump
Sunderland forum's got a thread suggesting Poyet might go back.
Responses along the lines of "no thanks, he was a disgrace at the end", "told us our expectations were too high" and "played the last few games like he wanted the sack".
Responses along the lines of "no thanks, he was a disgrace at the end", "told us our expectations were too high" and "played the last few games like he wanted the sack".
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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They love their footy in the NE. I’d love Sunderland or Newcastle even to become a top 4 Champions League club at the expense of a Chelsea, Man City etc. Impossible without oil or gas reserves though.
Listening to the whiney Mackem on 606 on Saturday, there was a lot of disgruntlement about the style of play.
**** me. Some of their fans still think they should be challenging for Europe. They are barely up to challenging for Hartlepool.
I was there when Bobby Zamora was unfairly set off for innocently lashing out at an inferior player. They can BURN as far as I'm concerned.
Nice stadium, though.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Sacking a manager just 11 games into the season when you're 6th in the league, 4 points off automatic having lost only twice smacks of entitlement. I can only assume the board and fans thought that at this stage they'd be running away with it, a mile clear at the top.
Be interesting to see how it pans out from here. Derby did similar when they binned off Clement when they were well placed in the League, ludicrously declaring the reason being they weren't playing the "Derby way" (whatever THAT is), and that apparently promotion wasn't a priority that season. I mean christ.
Don't recall the BZ incident btw, but "innocently lashing out" ??
You make it sound like he's being unreasonable, yet you replace one or two words there and that was 70% of our fan base in March.
Lower West Stander
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Donald sounds like a bit of a prat.
Gobbing off to the press about selling a majority of his stake and then taking an age to actually do it is not going to ingratiate him with the fans. Especially as he’s only owned the club for about 5 minutes.
While this is all going on he sacks the manager.
We’d be going nuts if this was Albion.
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Gritt23
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That "reality" is only your perception.
I hear a lot about CH not making the most of the squad of players he had, but I don't see it. For me, we were a bottom 5 squad for both of those seasons, and he finished near the top of the bottom 5. Many managers would have sunk without a trace with that squad. Take a look back at the horror on here that we didn't sign a striker after promotion, and were going in with Murray as our main man still. The view was generally "if we can stay in touch of survival and sign a striker in January, we may just be ok". We were much more than ok, and he did that without a decent striker being signed in the January, or the following summer, or January. Tell us that in August 2019, and we'd have never believed we were staying up.
Was it pretty? No. Was he out for survival? Yes. But I don't agree that he was given a whole host of great players that he didn't make the best of. Potter has already binned off some off the rubbish CH was having to make a silk purse out of. I don't think time will show that the sum of the parts CH was given were better than merely survival by whatever means necessary.
Gritt23
New member
Where are Sunderland with the proposed takeover?
Has it just gone through, and it's the new owners who have done this, or is it on the cards, and the new owners may have asked for the decks to be cleared?
Either way, this is tough on Ross, who took over at a basket-case of a club, with a whole host of problems, that managers with better CVs than his haven't been able to steady, let alone turnaround. he's come in, and been incredibly unlucky not to have gone up last season, and have started pretty well this season. I don't see (I may have missed it) investment in the squad that would suggest the expectations should be much higher than how they've started this season.
I can only think this is "new owner driven" and they may already have their own man already lined up.