[Politics] Sunak's benefits shake up

[Uh_huh_him]

One other point which is overlooked when 'crack-downs' on welfare are regularly announced, and give Daily Mail readers multiple-orgasms, is that cutting payments to claimants obviously means they have to reduce their weekly spending - which then means that local shops and other retailers will sell less, see their profits fall, and eventually close-down. This will then result in even more people claiming Benefits in the medium-term.

There really is a woeful lack of critical thinking in this country, and an inability (or unwillingness) to see the bigger picture or look beyond the latest headline.

Yep.

Give the lowest earners extra money and they will spend every last penny, benefitting everyone in the economy.
Give the richest people extra money and they will buy assets to increase their wealth and take money out of the economy.

The economic policies of the past 40 years have created the problems we now have in society.

 

[Triggaaar]

Unfortunately this all plays to the people, and we see several of them on this thread, who think mental health issues are all just "chancers with nothing wrong with them" and the like

There will be many genuine cases of people needing help, and government cuts will mean some of them miss out. There will also be chancers out there who cheat the system.

 

[MJsGhost]

One other point which is overlooked when 'crack-downs' on welfare are regularly announced, and give Daily Mail readers multiple-orgasms, is that cutting payments to claimants obviously means they have to reduce their weekly spending - which then means that local shops and other retailers will sell less, see their profits fall, and eventually close-down. This will then result in even more people claiming Benefits in the medium-term.

There really is a woeful lack of critical thinking in this country, and an inability (or unwillingness) to see the bigger picture or look beyond the latest headline.

Rubbish - all the proles buy is black market fags, drugs, bootlegged booze and 72" flatscreen TVs off the back of a lorry.
I read it in The Express, so it must be true

 

[Bodian]

This message board is so left wing !

I'm not a Tory boy , I would probably vote labour at the next GE.

But I saw a stat the other day that showed a record 54.2% of people (36 million) now live in households which received more in benefits than they contributed in taxes, which is a little disturbing. Would be good to see the stats without pensioners.

It does feel like this country and especially the youth (yes I know they have it hard) are pretty work shy these days. Hard to recruit in retail for instance since Brexit.

12.6 million pensioners apparently. Of course, if there's a household where one person is a pensioner, and the other isn't yet - that will count as two people. So - more than 12.6 million out of the 36 million.

 

[The Fits]

Sunak has got a f***ing nerve….

MPs clock off early as length of Commons work day hits record low​

https://www.ft.com/content/fef202b8-576d-429d-8136-cbb6db52f0f0





The working day for MPs in the House of Commons chamber has been shorter on average this parliamentary session than in any other in the past quarter century, according to a Financial Times analysis.

MPs clock off early as length of Commons work day hits record low

Rishi Sunak accused of presiding over a ‘zombie parliament’

www.ft.com

This is it in a nutshell. You couldn't make it up.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Typical Tory distraction politics. Is that the best you've got after all these years? Time to go

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

It's all so predictable. Same way Trump plays to the Evangelicals Sunak and co aim for the readers of the Express and Mail

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Sunak has got a f***ing nerve….

MPs clock off early as length of Commons work day hits record low​

https://www.ft.com/content/fef202b8-576d-429d-8136-cbb6db52f0f0





The working day for MPs in the House of Commons chamber has been shorter on average this parliamentary session than in any other in the past quarter century, according to a Financial Times analysis.

MPs clock off early as length of Commons work day hits record low

Rishi Sunak accused of presiding over a ‘zombie parliament’

www.ft.com

It could probably be argued that we'd be better off if they hadn't turned up for work at all in that time.

 

[The Clamp]

You know why.

To 'discourage' me from posting on here.

Nope, genuinely had never heard of you before your posts on this thread. Sorry.

 

[The Clamp]

This is it in a nutshell. You couldn't make it up.

It just annoys and angers me that this sort of hypocrisy is never brought up when he’s being interviewed.

The interviewer asks him / any Tory politician a question. They refuse to answer it and instead of asking a series of difficult questions, they just let them get away with refusing to answer the same question until time runs out.

We need some tougher media and news personalities.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It just annoys and angers me that this sort of hypocrisy is never brought up when he’s being interviewed.

The interviewer asks him / any Tory politician a question. They’d refuse to answer it and instead of asking a series of difficult questions, they just let them get away with refusing to answer the same question until time runs out.

We need some tougher media and news personalities.

Their stock reply: 'the real question is...'

 

[The Clamp]

Their stock reply: 'the real question is...'

“We are delivering…”

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Rubbish - all the proles buy is black market fags, drugs, bootlegged booze and 72" flatscreen TVs off the back of a lorry.
I read it in The Express, so it must be true

...and they still have change for the latest iphone.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Typical Tory distraction politics. Is that the best you've got after all these years? Time to go

But as this thread amply demonstrates, there's still a few tiddlers left to catch

Although I can't help thinking this may be better for what's left

 

[rippleman]

Yep.

Give the lowest earners extra money and they will spend every last penny, benefitting everyone in the economy.
Give the richest people extra money and they will buy assets to increase their wealth and take money out of the economy.

The economic policies of the past 40 years have created the problems we now have in society.

That's capitalism for you. It hasn't worked has it?

Time to try a radical new approach to politics, But if you think Starmer will give it to you, disappointment will surely follow.

 

[The Clamp]

 

[Dave the OAP]

Another election loser proposed by a billionaire

 

[rippleman]

It just annoys and angers me that this sort of hypocrisy is never brought up when he’s being interviewed.

The interviewer asks him / any Tory politician a question. They refuse to answer it and instead of asking a series of difficult questions, they just let them get away with refusing to answer the same question until time runs out.

We need some tougher media and news personalities.

Only the great Sir Robin Day comes close to Paxo when it comes to tough media personalities IMO. And even Paxo couldn't get an answer out of another Tory idiot. Did I say "idiot"? Sorry, I meant "leader"

 

[Weststander]

Good news for anyone interested in tangibles and realities.

I just listened to Sunak's speech - any changes would happen in the next parliament under a Tory government.

SO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE THERE'LL NOW BE FOLK HERE WORRIED ... YOU SHOULDN'T BE.

 

[The Clamp]

Only the great Sir Robin Day comes close to Paxo when it comes to tough media personalities IMO. And even Paxo couldn't get an answer out of another Tory idiot. Did I say "idiot"? Sorry, I meant "leader"

You’d never get any of this mob in front of Paxman .

They tend to stick to fluff pieces on breakfast telly or sounbites from some canning plant in Milton Keynes that nobody will ever see.