Summer 2015 transfer window thread

[chaileyjem]

I know you keep telling me that we spent more than ever last season

Sorry. I’m really just reporting what the club is telling us. Here's something from a few weeks ago.
Barber: "Each year [i've been at the club], the football budget has significantly increased and it did so last year [2014/15]"
That was him on the very good Albion Roar in Apr 2015. Bloom has also said it this season several times. Still don’t think Bloom has “pumped money” into the team last season. ? But yep . Agreed lets wait until the accounts.

I won't be accepting that we were competitive with Derby last season on ...transfer fees paid unless I see it in black and white!

A partial way to measure if clubs were competitive given most business these days is a mix of free transfers, season long loans and the like, but if thats the measurement then here goes.
I think Derby signed only 4 players last season that weren't free transfers or season long loans. All were undisclosed fees.
Ryan Shotton (Defender from Stoke City) - made a limited # of appearances
George Thorne (Midfielder from West Brom) - big hit for them ...only report i can find was that he cost "around £1m" but it might have ticked up a bit more.
Stephen Warnock (33 year old Left back) - who only made a few appearances
and Cyrus Christie (a compensation fee as he's under 23 from L1 Coventry)

Whereas we spent, its been reported, £2.5m on Baldock, £1m+ on Stockdale, £350K on Kayal, £600K on COG and undisclosed on Colunga , a striker , and more on Danny Holla. All are on expensive long contracts.
Hard to find out fees these days, there are sometimes add ons and you’d be mad to verify it in black or white before accounts are published so i don't know for sure.. But more than Derby or less ? What do you think ? Seems highly competitive to me.

As for wages. Then a rough guess would mean to even catch up with the Albion given that we know they increased “substantially”. Even if Barber is overcooking it then Derby would have had to increase spending last season by about 30% to catch up and get £1 a head, a pretty hefty jump given that they had a top 6 squad last season to start off with. But yep I say its possible . Of course it is.
As for competitive. Then of course we were competitive in terms of the money TB invested which , like , Derby went on the team.
Did we buy a competitive squad ? Sadly this didn't turn out to be the case. Last season any way. We bought a very expensive one. Bummer.

 

[Stat Brother]

Is it not the case though that Derby didn't need to (re)invest, having kept a play-off final reaching, fit squad, in place?
While the Albion was gutted by transfers and injuries.

I don't see what can be gained by like for like comparisons when there's no constant in the division.

 

[chaileyjem]

Is it not the case though that Derby didn't need to (re)invest, having kept a play-off final reaching, fit squad, in place?
While the Albion was gutted by transfers and injuries.

I don't see what can be gained by like for like comparisons when there's no constant in the division.

Agreed. There are obviously more factors that contribute to a teams effectiveness in a season than simply whether the chairman or board are investing in the team (injuries, form, the manager, tactics, player sales,luck, other forms of revenue, substitutions, tactics, even the crowd !) although paying high wages and fees often helps.But on all yardsticks we have a chairman who does get his cheque book out. It must be irritating for him when people argue he doesn't given that its his money. And its a myth that it all stopped (the spending that is) when Gus left in 2012/13.
As for the comparison with Derby then i believe @icygull is arguing, given they gave us the run around at the Amex last season but lost 2-0 and nearly made the top 6 again, they are the benchmark by which Albion should be judged. Although it looks like we've outspent them too, and paid more in fees and wages even last year. Which i suppose is an achievement of sorts but doesn't really cushion the blow of finishing 20th. I'd hope we could all agree that and move on.

 

[jamie the seagull]

"Ipswich Town striker Daryl Murphy is Cardiff City's number one summer transfer target "

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ipswich-town-striker-daryl-murphy-9380332?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

"Ipswich Town striker Daryl Murphy is Cardiff City's number one summer transfer target "

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ipswich-town-striker-daryl-murphy-9380332?

Be amazed if that went through. Last season was, by some distance I think, the most prolific of Murphy's career, and he clearly works well under McCarthy.

Cardiff don't seem to have much to offer that Ipswich don't...why would (a) Ipswich accept an offer from them and (b) Murphy fancy it, unless Cardiff are offering mental wages?

 

[Icy Gull]

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Hard to find out fees these days, there are sometimes add ons and you’d be mad to verify it in black or white before accounts are published so i don't know for sure.. But more than Derby or less ? What do you think ? Seems highly competitive to me.

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As always you put forward a good argument. Anyhoo when all is said and done, we sold our best players for a shit load of money and Derby kept theirs. We then spent way less than we had acquired on players who turned out to be massively over paid flops. Derby added quality for the most part and are now set for a third tilt at promotion. We'll have to wait and see how the figures turned out for each club. If we are going to spend a shit load of money again, please let it be on quality this time. The recent rumours are very encouraging, it has to be said....

 

[chaileyjem]

As always you put forward a good argument. ....

Cheers ICG

 

[El Sid]

Jonathas de Jesus. Go get him.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/brazilian-footballer-jonathas-produces-coolest-5606988

 

[pornomagboy]

Cms in talks with Luton

 

[BensGrandad]

Cms in talks with Luton

Near his original home, made his money sounds like a good move for him.

 

[AZ Gull]

Cms in talks with Luton

Blimey - going from Glenn Murray's replacement, to Charlie Walker's replacement, in the space of 4 years.

 

[WhingForPresident]

Be amazed if that went through. Last season was, by some distance I think, the most prolific of Murphy's career, and he clearly works well under McCarthy.

Cardiff don't seem to have much to offer that Ipswich don't...why would (a) Ipswich accept an offer from them and (b) Murphy fancy it, unless Cardiff are offering mental wages?

I love Russell Slade for his general demeanour and of course for how he kept us up in dire circumstances, but he is well out of his depth there and I can't imagine that someone playing under a manager like Mick McCarthy- who has good experience of managing at the top and got a relegation-threatened team into a safe mid-table spot in his first season and into the play-offs his second on a shoestring- would leave for a club with a mad dictator calling the shots with a manager that has spent most of his career firefighting for relegation-threatened clubs bar a few good months at Leyton Orient something like two years ago (and they still didn't make the play-offs).

 

[Rugrat]

Near his original home, made his money sounds like a good move for him.

He'll go where he can get the best pay and longest contract I'd have thought (generally how football works despite the fluffy announcements). Luton might be it

 

[El Turi]

Preston have signed Jermaine Beckford permanently.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

OK, so for the albion :


Ali J
Just needs to sign the paperwork/be persuaded - but are much richer fish interested ?

Jamie Murphy
Sheff Utd have refused our bid, and Adkins wants to keep him.

Zamora
Gone quiet.

Benno
Gone quiet.

S. Ward
Looks like we may make a bid, but will it be enough ?

Enrich
Clearly going somewhere next season, but is it to the albion ?

 

[GreersElbow]

I love Russell Slade for his general demeanour and of course for how he kept us up in dire circumstances, but he is well out of his depth there and I can't imagine that someone playing under a manager like Mick McCarthy- who has good experience of managing at the top and got a relegation-threatened team into a safe mid-table spot in his first season and into the play-offs his second on a shoestring- would leave for a club with a mad dictator calling the shots with a manager that has spent most of his career firefighting for relegation-threatened clubs bar a few good months at Leyton Orient something like two years ago (and they still didn't make the play-offs).

Woah...woah...you're telling us that its possible to make a play off chasing team on a shoestring budget?

Need to tell Zebedee and Blue Valkyrie that, they're absolutely pissing themselves that we've not spent any money yet. Despite the transfer window literally only being open...

 

[jay d]

OK, so for the albion :


Ali J
Just needs to sign the paperwork/be persuaded - but are much richer fish interested ?

Jamie Murphy
Sheff Utd have refused our bid, and Adkins wants to keep him.

Zamora
Gone quiet.

Benno
Gone quiet.

S. Ward
Looks like we may make a bid, but will it be enough ?

Enrich
Clearly going somewhere next season, but is it to the albion ?

if benno and zamora have gone quiet, then there the more likely imo

 

[BensGrandad]

Sure I read BZ is looking at the MLS but I would go for Benno and would be surprised if CH doesnt.

 

[El Turi]

Leeds have signed Erwin (a striker from Motherwell) and Horton (a keeper from Cardiff).

Rotherham have signed Aidy White from Leeds.

Still not that much activity but lots of Championship clubs have now done business.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Leeds have signed Erwin (a striker from Motherwell) and Horton (a keeper from Cardiff).

Rotherham have signed Aidy White from Leeds.

Still not that much activity but lots of Championship clubs have now done business.

But NSC thinks teams should be relaxed about things, not signing players in June

What amateurs Leeds are, eh ? Doing business when everyone is on holiday.