Suarez BITES again - ***Update: Luis Suarez banned from ALL football for 4 months***

[Goldstone1976]

The longer this goes on, the more I'm finding the Uruguayan reaction more distasteful than the offence itself.

Yes, it's very depressing. Although Suarez is a (supremely talented) CJTC, it's just about possible to think that he has some mental health/anger management issues and thus feel a modicum of sympathy for him.

It's much harder to feel likewise for what seems to be an entire nation in total denial about the facts. Grow up, Uruguay!

 

[Easy 10]

"Everyone knows what they've done to Luis. They wanted him out of the World Cup. Perfect, they did it. They chucked him out of there like a dog." Lila Piriz Da Rosa, Suarez's grandmother.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28053513

So, she's claiming it's a conspiracy. Any of our resident conspiracy theorists like to agree with her, or is this one just too absurd?

This is part of the reason he is a repeat offender - he is surrounded by fawning sychophants who defend his every transgression and always turn it round to paint him as the victim (which is why he's such a perfect for for for Liverpool). Its always someone elses fault, its always the media / the fans / the officials / the authorities who have it in for him because...well, because he is Luis Suarez. He's probably had this all his life, so he never feels any sense of responsibility for his actions. His world view is skewed, and his complete lack of contrition would also bear this out - not a single word of apology or regret. "These things happen".

I swear if he pulled out a machete, hacked Chiellini's arm off at the elbow, sucked on the bloodied stump and then raped the fourth official, there would be scousers and Uruguayans queuing up to say he slipped.

 

[Goldstone1976]

This is part of the reason he is a repeat offender - he is surrounded by fawning sychophants who defend his every transgression and always turn it round to paint him as the victim (which is why he's such a perfect for for for Liverpool). Its always someone elses fault, its always the media / the fans / the officials / the authorities who have it in for him because...well, because he is Luis Suarez. He's probably had this all his life, so he never feels any sense of responsibility for his actions. His world view is skewed, and his complete lack of contrition would also bear this out - not a single word of apology or regret. "These things happen".

I swear if he pulled out a machete, hacked Chiellini's arm off at the elbow, sucked on the bloodied stump and then raped the fourth official, there would be scousers and Uruguayans queuing up to say he slipped.

While I wouldn't necessarily use quite such colourful language as you have wink, I do think that your underlying point may have a lot of validity. The problem for him now is that he's so wealthy and so lauded that it's hard to see him agreeing to be around people who may be less sycophantic and actually tell him some home truths.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Out of interest - has anyone seen a quote from Gus about the biting incident and its aftermath...?

 

[Iggle Piggle]

I swear if he pulled out a machete, hacked Chiellini's arm off at the elbow, sucked on the bloodied stump and then raped the fourth official, there would be scousers and Uruguayans queuing up to say he slipped.

When Beckham kicked the Argie or Waddle ballooned his pen into space England fans did the decent thing and either hung an effigy which looked nothing like Beckham or put Waddle in a Pizza Hut advert.

At no point did anyone back the player or if they did they were the minority. The reaction from Uruguay is odd to say the least. Then, why I am surprised, We had Gus and Tanno for years who weren't exactly an advert for sanity. It seems the country is choc full of people who are bonkers.

 

[Easy 10]

When Beckham kicked the Argie or Waddle ballooned his pen into space England fans did the decent thing and either hung an effigy which looked nothing like Beckham or put Waddle in a Pizza Hut advert.

At no point did anyone back the player or if they did they were the minority. The reaction from Uruguay is odd to say the least. Then, why I am surprised, We had Gus and Tanno for years who weren't exactly an advert for sanity. It seems the country is choc full of people who are bonkers.

I think we can put it down to "small country syndrome". For a country with a population of 3m, Uruguay punch WELL above their weight in International terms, so you have to respect them for that. But it doesn't half put an almighty great chip on their shoulder if anyone DARES criticise them or their heroes. They immediately detach themselves from reality, circle the wagons, go into siege mode and just deny everything, no matter how absurd their justifications sound. Its quite curious.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

When Beckham kicked the Argie or Waddle ballooned his pen into space England fans did the decent thing and either hung an effigy which looked nothing like Beckham or put Waddle in a Pizza Hut advert.

At no point did anyone back the player or if they did they were the minority. The reaction from Uruguay is odd to say the least. Then, why I am surprised, We had Gus and Tanno for years who weren't exactly an advert for sanity. It seems the country is choc full of people who are bonkers.

Tanno is an Argie! But as for the rest, well yes!

 

[sparkie]

Out of interest - has anyone seen a quote from Gus about the biting incident and its aftermath...?

Surprised Radio Poyet hasn't been broadcasting on all frequencies.

Maybe a lesson has been learnt

 

[paul & shark]

“Now inside me there's no feelings of joy, revenge or anger against Suarez for an incident that happened on the pitch and that's done. There only remain the anger and the disappointment about the match. At the moment my only thought is for Luis and his family, because they will face a very difficult period. I have always considered unequivocal the disciplinary interventions by the competent bodies, but at the same time I believe that the proposed formula is excessive. I sincerely hope that he will be allowed, at least, to stay close to his team mates during the games because such a ban is really alienating for a player.”

Girgio Chiellini.

 

[Harry H]

I'd much rather take a nip on the shoulder from Suarez than a leg breaker from Ryan Shawcross,a career finisher from Keane,a skull fracturer from Hunt,a jaw breaker from Shearers elbow,a coma inducer from Harald Schumaker or have a professional footballer kill my kids while driving drunk like Luke McCormick.
A massive overreaction from the English press and supporters because England went home before even Suarez did because of his two goals against them.
It was a nip on the shoulder.Not a glass in the face.

 

[Albumen]

Chiellini and now Fred have said the ban is wrong and excessive.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I'd much rather take a nip on the shoulder from Suarez than a leg breaker from Ryan Shawcross,a career finisher from Keane,a skull fracturer from Hunt,a jaw breaker from Shearers elbow,a coma inducer from Harald Schumaker or have a professional footballer kill my kids while driving drunk like Luke McCormick.
A massive overreaction from the English press and supporters because England went home before even Suarez did because of his two goals against them.
It was a nip on the shoulder.Not a glass in the face.

Harry Hill?

 

[Creaky]

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsit...st-all-sense-of-proportion/15283#.U62nJEBhvqw
Proportionality. Have we forgotten what the word means? In criminal law, it means that the punishment reflects the severity of the crime. The febrile reaction to the latest Luis Suárez biting incident suggests that we’ve lost all sense of proportion. We’ve made a three-course meal out of a harmless little nibble.

FIFA has handed Suárez a record nine-match international ban and a four-month ban on having anything to do with football. Some will argue that even this sanction is too lenient. There had been calls for the Uruguay striker to be hit with a lifetime ban. BBC pundit Danny Mills said: ‘They have got to throw him in jail and lock him up forever.’ As I said, no sense of proportion. The problem we face is this: how do we calculate Suárez’s punishment in a proportionate way? Is it by measuring malicious intent? If so, good luck with that. There are cameras at every angle in the ground these days, but as yet no one’s invented an inside-the-brain camera to read a player’s mind.

What about punishing according to the degree of harm caused? Apart from teeth marks and wounded pride, there was no significant harm caused by Suárez’s bite. No blood was drawn, no flesh was torn. Nobody got eaten. It wasn’t a career-wrecking assault. It was a violent act, but was it any worse than a punch, a headbutt, a studs-up tackle or an elbow to the throat? Clearly not. So why does a bite warrant a stiffer penalty than all these acts of violence?

It seems that Suárez is being punished for violating a social taboo. Biting, like spitting, is considered uncivilised. Suárez’s punishment therefore would appear to include an additional moral premium. But whose morals are we talking about? Sure, there’s been plenty of frothing outrage, particularly in England. But while some were outraged, the rest of us were pissing ourselves laughing. That’s right: we thought it was bloody hilarious. Top notch entertainment. So, there’s not even a moral consensus over the alleged crime.

I propose a simple and proportionate punishment, based on philosopher Jeremy Bentham’s ‘hedonistic calculus’, weighing up the amount of pleasure or pain caused. The bite itself deserves a three-match ban (actual cannibalism would carry a stiffer, six-match sanction). However, as the bite caused almost as much pleasure as it did pain, I’d offset the penalty with a two-game ‘mirth bonus’. The net result is a one-match ban. A reasonable sanction or a recipe for cannibalism? I’ll leave you, dear reader, to chew over that question.

 

[martyn20]

Reading Mr Suarez's explanation of the incident I find his version of events very plausible, clearly FIFA and the whole rest of the world have got this very wrong. Get him back to Brazil and give Uruguay a 2 goal start in all their future games to make up for this miscarriage of justice.

 

[glasfryn]

The longer this goes on, the more I'm finding the Uruguayan reaction more distasteful than the offence itself.

I seem to remember they thought Rattin was an angel as well
there is history
its all our fault

 

[TomandJerry]

Chiellini and now Fred have said the ban is wrong and excessive.

They can complain all they want, it won't be changed

 

[Dan Aitch]

Suarez' explanation is some way short of how convincing this is.

 

[Jbanged]

It really annoys me how people are even trying to justify what Suarez did. His punishment isn't that big. Take into account all the things that have happened in his short career. I strongly believe he is lucky to still be welcomed back to football. I hope he has been warned that this is the last chance he gets.
As for that numpty Harry H, comparing it to others actions. This is the man who has twice bitten in professional games, and also denied a team a goal from purposely hand balling. The man is a cheat and a deranged being.
The Uruguayans should be ashamed of him and themselves for giving him a heroes welcome.

Rant over

 

[Brownstuff]

One thing for sure is that the game tonight will be less entertaining than with Suarez on the pitch
The man is a football genius, shame England don't have anyone close to his skill level

 

[Jbanged]

One thing for sure is that the game tonight will be less entertaining than with Suarez on the pitch
The man is a football genius, shame England don't have anyone close to his skill level

True. However, we would all be winging now how he had lost us the World Cup