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Stockdale



Everest

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Jul 5, 2003
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Southwick
i think your picture is fractionally too early when watching on FL Show he was definitely level with DS when DS tried to make the save but it is difficult to see where he was when the shot was taken but Greer, who was our nearest player, did raise his arm. As I say not that it matters but could have had an affect on DS out of the corner of his eye.

The picture was taken fractionally too late, not early.
But he was still onside. Halford was even closer to the byline than Bennett.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
It was only a personal observation on the FL Show, which obviously Greer thought too. I thought the player was standing next to DS in the goal mouth when he let the ball in .
 


Everest

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Jul 5, 2003
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Southwick
Just had a look at it in slo-mo on YouTube, [MENTION=451]BensGrandad[/MENTION].

It wasn't even the Wigan player that shot, it came straight off Stephens.
 










Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Is that the case now?
I thought it was right when I was playing all those years ago, but there seems to be nothing in Law 11 now about being onside if the ball is played backwards (irrespective of where the player is).

It depends on what Edna meant. If she meant the ball was played backwards so it can't be offside, no that's not the case. In theory, if CMS is in an offside position, Lualua pulls the cross back and it deflects off a defender to CMS he would still be offside, by virtue of having gained an advantage by being in that position when his team mate played the ball.

If Edna meant that 'logically speaking, if the ball was played backwards, it would have been away from the goal keeper, and the goal line, and thus it would have been difficult for a player on the goal line to be 'interfering with an opponent' then she could be right, depending on the specifics of the situation (ie if Stockdale is on the line in the middle of his goal, and the attacker is on the same side of the goal that the cross comes down he might block the keeper's view of the cross, if the player on the line is on the far side of the goal, he isn't blocking the keeper's view and as long as he doesn't hold the keeper back or get in the way of his dive then he isn't committing and offence).
 










NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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''Anybody watching the highlights cannot deny that it was definitely a fumble by Stockdale'' from your earlier post...sounds definitive to me

I am not anti Stockdale in the slightest but time after time I feel like putting my head in my hands at the points he has cost us. I keep wanting to defend him but it is getting more and more difficult with every mistake
 












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Feb 8, 2005
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I am not anti Stockdale in the slightest but time after time I feel like putting my head in my hands at the points he has cost us. I keep wanting to defend him but it is getting more and more difficult with every mistake

What about the points he has saved us? Would hazard a guess that they outweigh the 'mistakes'.
 


Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
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Bexhill-on-Sea
I blame Cantor, it seems that almost every time we concede, he subtlety blames the keeper. Our merry band of radio fans on the match thread then jump on the same old bandwagon.
Once again, when fans that were at the game come on, it proves to be wrong again.
Never stops them though.

He does, they are very anti Stockdale on SCR and he is a very poor commentator, an example is Blackburn away, the way he described the own goal I thought Blackburn had scored, it wasn't until I saw posts of "yes" on NSC I realised otherwise.
 


thedonkeycentrehalf

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Jul 7, 2003
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Maybe you didn't watch the highlights yourself.
He wasn't on the goal line, and he wasn't offside.
(sorry about the poor pic)

What that picture does show is how close Stockdale was to Stephens when the ball was diverted his way by Stephens. Saying he fumbled a ball that was hit at him from such close range by his own player is extremely harsh.
 


W.C.

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Oct 31, 2011
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I blame Cantor, it seems that almost every time we concede, he subtlety blames the keeper. Our merry band of radio fans on the match thread then jump on the same old bandwagon.
Once again, when fans that were at the game come on, it proves to be wrong again.
Never stops them though.

Really dislike how the the radio commentary has become so opinionated. Much like most media these days.
 




Langley

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Mar 10, 2008
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Waltham Chase, Hants
I am not anti Stockdale in the slightest but time after time I feel like putting my head in my hands at the points he has cost us. I keep wanting to defend him but it is getting more and more difficult with every mistake

If our forwards got their bloody fingers out and scored more goals, you and others would not be concerned with Stockdale. Why are we not seeing more criticism of the constant errors made continuously in front of goal. Name a goalie that has never made an error, and I will call you a liar.
We have a good keeper in David, and I can understand how his confidence can be affected by some of the clowns in front of him.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
If our forwards got their bloody fingers out and scored more goals, you and others would not be concerned with Stockdale. Why are we not seeing more criticism of the constant errors made continuously in front of goal. Name a goalie that has never made an error, and I will call you a liar.
We have a good keeper in David, and I can understand how his confidence can be affected by some of the clowns in front of him.

100% this. Errors are magnified loads due to our useless attack, who deserve a hundred times more stick than Stockdale is getting.
 


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