Stewards stopping people parking, What law & power do they have?

[Blues Rock DJ]

You clearly have more money than sense then.

So because you choose to pay to park that means that everyone else should.

How much do you pay for this?

Shared 3 ways, £3 a match, now how much does a recovery/parking ticket cost these days ?? Not more money than sense, just don't leave things to chance!

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I think the club needs to chill out about parking. If people are parking a 20 minute walk away - is there a real problem ?

 

[Storer 68]

Suerly it would ne easier and cheaper to park in Brighton or Lewes and get the train to the ground, which is of course NEXT DOOR to the station

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Suerly it would ne easier and cheaper to park in Brighton or Lewes and get the train to the ground, which is of course NEXT DOOR to the station

Lots of people prefer a long walk than a long wait.

 

[byf]

Shared 3 ways, £3 a match, now how much does a recovery/parking ticket cost these days ?? Not more money than sense, just don't leave things to chance!

We dont have 3 people in our car, so £4.50 each per game would add another £100 to my already £600 season ticket.

I dont know how much a recovery/parking ticket cost, but I'm not parking somewhere that I believed to be illegal, I'm finding out where I stand. If I get towed then they would need a lot of trucks as there's about 10 cars that park there.

Maybe you should take a risk, live life on the edge a little instead of getting on your high horse.

Attention all albion fans, If you dont get the train, bus or pay for parking locally then you are officially tight fisted according to Blues Rock DJ.

 

[byf]

Lots of people prefer a long walk than a long wait.

Exactly, there's something quite nice and refreshing about a walk to and from the ground especially as it's getting colder and I can think of nothing worse than waiting for a train when your bolloc*s have just turned blue.

 

[Pinkie Brown]

i parked just off coldean lane for the hull game..bang next to a driveway ...but made sure i wasn't obstructing any cars wishing to use it..as one should...returned after the game to see that the owner of the house had decided to park across it and box me in...after knocking on there door ..they decided to make me wait 15 mins before emoting there car ..might be looking for another space tonight

If its a public highway & you're taxed & insured, you have every right to park there, no matter what residents & stewards may think/tell you. If residents continue to pull stunts like that, they only have themselves to blame should their vehicles get 'damaged' whilst causing an obstruction. If the club pulled anyone's season ticket because they parked legally on a public highway, despite their terms & conditions of entry, they could be on very shaky legal ground.

As for a Private Road, yes its slightly more complex. Unless they hold an SIA Licence & are an accredited member of the parking association, they certainly can't clamp you & their so called parking tickets aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Its down to the landowner to prove he's incurred a loss due to you parking there. -Assuming he can identify the driver which the owner is under no legal obligation to reveal who it is.

 

[Acker79]

I think the club needs to chill out about parking. If people are parking a 20 minute walk away - is there a real problem ?

I don't think the problem is if one or two do it, it's if five, six or seven thousand fans decide to do it. It will cause ill-will with the residents affected who can then challenge planning permission, etc.

 

[The Large One]

If its a public highway & you're taxed & insured, you have every right to park there, no matter what residents & stewards may think/tell you. If residents continue to pull stunts like that, they only have themselves to blame should their vehicles get 'damaged' whilst causing an obstruction. If the club pulled anyone's season ticket because they parked legally on a public highway, despite their terms & conditions of entry, they could be on very shaky legal ground.

Straying slightly off topic, that is one of my bugbears in people.

Some seem to think that parking outside their house is their inalienable right, to the exclusion of others, on an unmarked public highway. I had a next-door neighbour who got the arse with me for parking outside his house - the space outside mine was taken up, as was the next 100 yards - and demanded I parked somewhere else, insisting it was 'his space'. When I asked 'where?', he replied 'I don't care.' So I took the same attitude and walked off.

 

[Acker79]

If the club pulled anyone's season ticket because they parked legally on a public highway, despite their terms & conditions of entry, they could be on very shaky legal ground.

People can't argue they weren't aware that parking would be an issue, so it's not like many fans can plead ignorance.

But ultimately, it would depend on the terms and conditions. I imagine, since they knew transport would be an issue, they would have something in the T&Cs that would cover the club so it wouldn't be such shaky ground if they chose to cancel season tickets.

I imagine though, that they won't take any action unless the vehicles start causing a problem.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I don't think the problem is if one or two do it, it's if five, six or seven thousand fans decide to do it. It will cause ill-will with the residents affected who can then challenge planning permission, etc.

But 20 minutes walk away takes you a fair distance from the stadium - there has to be some allowance that people will park and walk. That must apply to every stadium in the country. And residents need to chill out as well. Parking outside their house for a few hours twenty-odd times a year is not a real issue is it ? It would be easier if the planning authorities just accepted a level of parking and walking will happen.

(I have parked and ride, parked and walked, trained, and bused in - and found the park and walk the easiest for evening games).

 

[byf]

It seems that there is a ZERO tolerance approach from the club and they arnt making any freinds by this at all. I know they want things to run smoothly and keep everyone happy but Blues rock dj said it was £9 to park, not only is there a limited number of spaces it's hardly affordable parking is it?

Where was the last away ground you went to and paid £9!!!

The club need to realise that people are going to park and walk outside a reasonable distance from the stadium.

 

[Scarface]

i parked just off coldean lane for the hull game..bang next to a driveway ...but made sure i wasn't obstructing any cars wishing to use it..as one should...returned after the game to see that the owner of the house had decided to park across it and box me in...after knocking on there door ..they decided to make me wait 15 mins before emoting there car ..might be looking for another space tonight

Are there many places to park down there? I was thinking of trying there when I next go for the Coventry game. Is it a particularly safe place to park/walk after dark?!

 

[Acker79]

But 20 minutes walk away takes you a fair distance from the stadium - there has to be some allowance that people will park and walk. That must apply to every stadium in the country. And residents need to chill out as well. Parking outside their house for a few hours twenty-odd times a year is not a real issue is it ? It would be easier if the planning authorities just accepted a level of parking and walking will happen.

(I have parked and ride, parked and walked, trained, and bused in - and found the park and walk the easiest for evening games).

For the residents who feel "their" space is being taken, it doesn't matter how far from the stadium it is, all that matters is they have to park 20 minutes away from their house, and have only had to since that new football stadium opened, and now they want even more people to come?

I'm not criticising anyone who wants to park locally. I'm fortunate enough to live close enough to walk. I'm just saying that if you have even as few as 5000 people all trying to park just 20 minutes away it will have a significant impact on the residents there, and they will then have bad feelings towards the club and could fight any further plans the club has.

Of course, if the club was trying to fight to be allowed to arrange more parking at the stadium, pissing off the residents could work in our favour as they all start supporting any planning applications for parking spaces at the stadium to get us out of their roads...

 

[Tooting Gull]

But 20 minutes walk away takes you a fair distance from the stadium - there has to be some allowance that people will park and walk. That must apply to every stadium in the country. And residents need to chill out as well. Parking outside their house for a few hours twenty-odd times a year is not a real issue is it ? It would be easier if the planning authorities just accepted a level of parking and walking will happen.

(I have parked and ride, parked and walked, trained, and bused in - and found the park and walk the easiest for evening games).

Exactly my experience. Even then I have to get there much earlier than I would like, the roads are getting very full in Coldean going up the hill, including many away fans.

I would have thought the club must realise it actually NEEDS these overflows now, let alone if and when it's 30,000. I will never pay £9 to park to watch my own team at home. Never.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

I drive to games as my old man doesnt like getting the train or Bus and have been parking in a country lane up the A27, approx 25 min walk from car to ground.

Now it's very quiet, doesnt block driveways, doesnt hold up traffic, isnt on yellow lines and is way away from anything of relevance.

There is a cluster of other cars that park there aswell.

Now for the Hull game there were 2 car loads of Stewards up the lane, they were telling people they couldnt park there, I had a slight altercation with a couple of them and an argument came about.

Now what powers do they have? Can they stop me parking there?

What powers do I have and where does it all stand legally as I personally think its crazy, blocking people's driveways in coldean is an issue, but a quiet country lane is getting out of control for me.

Advice?

Wouldnt it be an awful lot easier for your peace of mind, if you simply did what the great majoriity of other motorists do, and use one of the three park and ride sites?.

 

[Pinkie Brown]

People can't argue they weren't aware that parking would be an issue, so it's not like many fans can plead ignorance.

Irrelevant regarding the legality of parking on a public highway.

But ultimately, it would depend on the terms and conditions. I imagine, since they knew transport would be an issue, they would have something in the T&Cs that would cover the club so it wouldn't be such shaky ground if they chose to cancel season tickets.

Despite any moral argument, the club can't dictate where you park on a public highway & would be on very thin legal ice despite their own T & C's which are most unlikely to stand up in any legal case. If a car parks on a public street & its legal to do so, whether you're parking up to watch Brighton & Hove Albion or visit Auntie Doris who lives in the area, it makes no difference.

The club can request fans don't park in a certain area for peace & harmony reasons with the locals, but unless there's enforceable traffic restrictions, the club can't legally do anything to prevent people parking legally or take action to punish them for doing so.

 

[Acker79]

Despite any moral argument, the club can't dictate where you park on a public highway & would be on very thin legal ice despite their own T & C's which are most unlikely to stand up in any legal case. If a car parks on a public street & its legal to do so, whether you're parking up to watch Brighton & Hove Albion or visit Auntie Doris who lives in the area, it makes no difference.

The club can request fans don't park in a certain area for peace & harmony reasons with the locals, but unless there's enforceable traffic restrictions, the club can't legally do anything to prevent people parking legally or take action to punish them for doing so.

But if in the T&C the club asks that you act in accordance with their instructions, helping them fulfill their obligations to reduce environmental impact on match days and you don't act in accordance with their instructions, the fact you have a legal right to park isn't relevant. The fact that you agreed to follow the club's instructions in the T&Cs and then don't follow them is what would give them solid footing.

 

[rool]

But if in the T&C the club asks that you act in accordance with their instructions, helping them fulfill their obligations to reduce environmental impact on match days and you don't act in accordance with their instructions, the fact you have a legal right to park isn't relevant. The fact that you agreed to follow the club's instructions in the T&Cs and then don't follow them is what would give them solid footing.

Not necessarily. There is such a thing as unfair contract terms in consumer law

 

[Acker79]

Not necessarily. There is such a thing as unfair contract terms in consumer law

There is, but I would imagine the club will have worded it in an appropriate way to avoid this.