Steven Spielberg's Greatest Film

[Uncle Spielberg]

He uses real lighting? Woop-de-do. So he uses the latest technology but how much of that is him and how much is it due to the creative geniuses in the production room?

Your point about CGI is not really valid either. He uses CGI as and when it is needed. Obviously for a historical film about WWI it's needed less than for a science fiction film.

And you have spectacularly missed my point re Schindlers List. In fact you are so far off the mark I'd ask you to re-read what I wrote. My point is (and I'll try to make it very clear) is that Spielberg went for the easy emotional angle with the film. Some of the characters (Ralph Fiennes, the Rabbi) are so 2-dimensional that it is hard to believe them. A much more difficult thing would be to look at how people normalised their situations in the ghetto and how ordinary people from both sides accepted the situation. Why were the jews so subservient even when they knew there was certain death? How did it come to be that other non-Jews (Schindler excepted) did not question what was happening. Basically - what made Schindler (who was until then a bit of a Delboy character wheeling and dealing with limited success) so very different? It's a massive question at the very heart of the film and it got nowhere near the attention it should have got.

Thats your opinion and I don't agree with you and loads of other people don't either. We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Joey Deacon's Disco Suit]

Thats you opinion and I don't agree with you and loads of other people don't either. We will have to agree to disagree.

Please do send me a copy of your findings when you've finished your research. I can't wait to read what you say about him.

 

[jakarta]

From Wikipedia:

Film critics gave Hook generally negative reviews. As of December 2011, review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes reports that 29% of critics have given the film a positive review, based on 38 reviews, certifying it "Rotten", with an average rating of 4.4/10.[16] At the same time, the film receives a 72% positive audience rating

Presume no NScers are Professional Film Critics but instead Punters who turn up to watch them so does this indicate the NSC poll is correct?

For what its worth I agree with the 71%

 

[Brightonfan1983]

Hook is up there? HOOK?

 

[Brightonfan1983]

He uses real lighting? Woop-de-do. So he uses the latest technology but how much of that is him and how much is it due to the creative geniuses in the production room?

Your point about CGI is not really valid either. He uses CGI as and when it is needed. Obviously for a historical film about WWI it's needed less than for a science fiction film.

And you have spectacularly missed my point re Schindlers List. In fact you are so far off the mark I'd ask you to re-read what I wrote. My point is (and I'll try to make it very clear) is that Spielberg went for the easy emotional angle with the film. Some of the characters (Ralph Fiennes, the Rabbi) are so 2-dimensional that it is hard to believe them. A much more difficult thing would be to look at how people normalised their situations in the ghetto and how ordinary people from both sides accepted the situation. Why were the jews so subservient even when they knew there was certain death? How did it come to be that other non-Jews (Schindler excepted) did not question what was happening. Basically - what made Schindler (who was until then a bit of a Delboy character wheeling and dealing with limited success) so very different? It's a massive question at the very heart of the film and it got nowhere near the attention it should have got.

But it's the adaptation of a book which didn't go into it either.

 

[CorgiRegisteredFriend]

This is a great poll and thread but the fact that Hook is winning makes me think something not quite right is going on.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

This is a great poll and thread but the fact that Hook is winning makes me think something not quite right is going on.

I pointed out this fact earlier but got slated for it and slagged off. We all know what is going on but I am just accepting it and we may as well declare " Hook " to be the winner now.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I pointed out this fact earlier but got slated for it and slagged off. We all know what is going on but I am just accepting it and we may as well declare " Hook " to be the winner now.

All that's "going on", is that some people are exercising their right to VOTE for Hook, if they see fit.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Oh FFS. I GIVE Up !

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

The ONLY person that cannot see what is going on is you hans. Do you think I am a complete f***ing numty or something ?

 

[Man of Harveys]

Who voted for the Terminal? Who was it?

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

f*** me its a perfectly fair first past the post system. As Sim said the people have spoken. Its like moaning about who is in power. Just coz YOU dont like it doesnt mean OTHERS have the same opinion.

FWIW people, like myself, have given good, valid reasons as to why we voted for Hook other than some of the other "by numbers" films.

Trouble is US = box office takings to mean a good film. Yet how much crap generates millions im thinking transformers for a start.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Oh FFS. I GIVE Up !

You haven't given up though, have you? You're still stirring the pot by repeatedly posting to claim that any votes for Hook are part of some conspiracy.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

And if you didnt like it then you shouldnt have includedit and just did YOUR own personal top five or ten.

 

[Joey Deacon's Disco Suit]

The ONLY person that cannot see what is going on is you hans. Do you think I am a complete f***ing numty or something ?

Yes. I think you're an intolerant , paranoid, hyper-sensitive numpty. What's so wrong about people having different opinions?

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Serious question US and i may have missed your response to Herr Tubthumper but what is your problem with Hook? Please dont say anything about takings.

Like i say 1941 is another fave but as we all kbow that tanked.

 

[aftershavedave]

Serious question US and i may have missed your response to Herr Tubthumper but what is your problem with Hook? Please dont say anything about takings.

Like i say 1941 is another fave but as we all kbow that tanked.

interesting that. i'd put 1941 a second to hook in my list. great action film

 

[Joey Deacon's Disco Suit]

And quite clearly Uncle Spielberg is unable to hold his own in a debate about his alleged specialist subject. I can't wait to see what little insights await us. Will they be as explosive as this revelation:

...although Star Wars. in itself was a great film

Thanks for telling us that. I don't think many people had picked up on that.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

interesting that. i'd put 1941 a second to hook in my list. great action film

I agree it's a great film as is Hook.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

The Director’s Guild of America snubs Spielberg’s “War Horse” in its award nominations which were announced last night.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/movies/awardsseason/directors-guild-list-skips-some-big-names-including-spielberg.html?ref=arts