Sterling, good time to buy a telly..

[RM-Taylor]

What's the best deal on the high street at the moment?

 

[el punal]

I honestly expected to see Raheem walking out of Currys with a 75-inch curve

That's the shape of his arse when, yet again, he runs the ball out of play.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Check how optimistic the economists were at the end of last year........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...my-as-France-and-Italy-face-G8-exclusion.html

Experts: #Rongagain

 

[Steve in Japan]

I'm not buying a new TV, I'm going to wait for Rediffusion to make a comeback and rent one from them.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

I'm not buying a new TV, I'm going to wait for Rediffusion to make a comeback and rent one from them.

That's a good plan, I have still got my radiogram that I was renting from them when they went bust and never bothered to collect it.
Failing that there is always Radio Rentals or Comet to fall back on.

 

[8ace]

Just cashed out a tidy sum of my work shares that are USD! Made a very decent amount just in the currency FX! Not all bad

[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] Aftertime ALERT

 

[Diego Napier]

I'm sure this is what Boris means when he says the benefits of leaving the EU have not been properly explained. This is merely the first of the many benefits the country will receive thanks to leaving the EU. This is a fantastic chance for us to start manufacturing and buying our own British made tellys , although we obviously don't make many of the components so we will have to buy them from China where obviously it's cheaper, but it's a step in the right direction...

But it doesn't need to stop there! We can do the same with other things; if a few clever people invented new English cars then we could start mass producing them here or new mobile phones or even new computers. How about starting to build new trains and boats and planes. Of course as you say, it's too expensive to create the steel or various components here but I'm sure the foreign suppliers would be happy to ramp up production.

 

[vegster]

But it doesn't need to stop there! We can do the same with other things; if a few clever people invented new English cars then we could start mass producing them here or new mobile phones or even new computers. How about starting to build new trains and boats and planes. Of course as you say, it's too expensive to create the steel or various components here but I'm sure the foreign suppliers would be happy to ramp up production.

Indeed, maybe that charming Mr Dyson will start investing in our soon to be " Great " Great Britain and move his Polish based vacuum cleaner manufacturing back home ?

 

[beorhthelm]

But it doesn't need to stop there! We can do the same with other things; if a few clever people invented new English cars then we could start mass producing them here or new mobile phones or even new computers. How about starting to build new trains and boats and planes. Of course as you say, it's too expensive to create the steel or various components here but I'm sure the foreign suppliers would be happy to ramp up production.

you mean produce more than the 1.5million cars already produced? and how about all those mobiles using ARM designed chips? EU tariffs are more on electronics components than finished goods, so its cheaper to import from foreign suppliers than do all assembly here. we could of course build more trains here if there was a little more will and a lot less EU rules on state aid that block buy British policies and encourage German manufactures to fill the void. same can be said for steel, it would help them if there were the EU energy cost to burden them. we could impose more tariffs on steel import of course, but then have higher tariffs on manufactured exports as a consequence. its swings and roundabouts.

 

[Diego Napier]

you mean produce more than the 1.5million cars already produced?

Err, English cars?

and how about all those mobiles using ARM designed chips?

How about them? One exception doesn't prove the rule.

EU tariffs are more on electronics components than finished goods, so its cheaper to import from foreign suppliers than do all assembly here.

Excellent, we should see a rapid turnaround once all those EU tariffs are removed.

Oh, of course, once English labour costs have plunged in order to compete with China, South East Asia & India.

Oh, and of course, once we've created the new devices which are as least as good as the competition.

we could of course build more trains here if there was a little more will and a lot less EU rules on state aid that block buy British policies and encourage German manufactures to fill the void.

Excellent again, remove those Eu tariffs, the will will return and no doubt English productivity rates will soar in response eventually matching Germany and making us competitive again.

same can be said for steel, it would help them if there were the EU energy cost to burden them. we could impose more tariffs on steel import of course, but then have higher tariffs on manufactured exports as a consequence. its swings and roundabouts.

I look forward to a burgeoning English heavy industry then; surely it won't cost that much to find and tool up the sites and skill the labour force? We'll be churning out steel for all manner of vessels and as you point out, even swings and roundabouts.

 

[Hamilton]

Experts: #Rongagain

The CEBR however warned Britain's economic performance could be derailed by a number of major political risks - such as the breakup of the United Kingdom and an exit from the European Union.

They noted that a "Brexit" would "prove at best disruptive and at worst lead to a more insular and less diverse culture which in turn would generate slower growth".




Sent from my iPhone in a non-Calde world :-(

 

[beorhthelm]

Err, English cars?

How about them? One exception doesn't prove the rule.
.

yes, English cars, they are manufactured in England, 1.5million roll off production lines in this country every year. and the ARM "exception" is in every single mobile around the world. accepted we dont mass produce them here, but then no one else does in the first world, they outsource to a handful of factories in the far east to do the dirty, low margin work. all you other point serve to highlight there are other issues in our economy that are unrelated to EU in or out.

 

[Ernest]

[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] Aftertime ALERT

Well spotted , I didn't realise this was so CONTAGIOUS

 

[Diego Napier]

yes, English cars, they are manufactured in England, 1.5million roll off production lines in this country every year. and the ARM "exception" is in every single mobile around the world. accepted we dont mass produce them here, but then no one else does in the first world, they outsource to a handful of factories in the far east to do the dirty, low margin work. all you other point serve to highlight there are other issues in our economy that are unrelated to EU in or out.

Good grief man, are purposely being a bit slow on the uptake?

A post earlier in the thread jokingly suggested we could start manufacturing British televisions. Picking up on that, I extended it by talking about English (implying there won't be a Britain when Scotland goes it's own way) cars being invented and mass produced here. Apart from a relatively few niche, specialist and high end products, the cars that are made in England are for the profit of Japanese, American and German owners. I wonder how long volume car making will remain in England once the owners cease receiving the benefits of EU based production?

Your ARM example is still a mass production exception.

All my other points were not intended to be specifically related to the EU. They were intended to illustrate that we have fewer (next to none) natural resources, (woefully) weaker manufacturing base, less productive workforce (than France and Spain to name two of many) and a more costly workforce than many of our rivals, along with innovative advantages that are no better or worse. However, with that catalogue of disadvantages, coupled with how much financial powerhouse London has benefited from being in the EU, leaving such a powerful trading bloc does seem something of a folly, doesn't it?

 

[BigGully]

The CEBR however warned Britain's economic performance could be derailed by a number of major political risks - such as the breakup of the United Kingdom and an exit from the European Union.

They noted that a "Brexit" would "prove at best disruptive and at worst lead to a more insular and less diverse culture which in turn would generate slower growth".




Sent from my iPhone in a non-Calde world :-(

We can argue the toss about the economic outlook and whether the CEBR broad view from 'disruptive' to 'catastrophic' might come to fruition or not.

But this bit intrigues me, a bunch of mainly white, exceptionally well paid executives concluding that we as a nation would become 'more insular and less diverse', now on this one they have no more credibility than me or my mate Bob down the pub, what exactly might they mean and what are they seeing that Bob and I can not

 

[vegster]

Good grief man, are purposely being a bit slow on the uptake?

A post earlier in the thread jokingly suggested we could start manufacturing British televisions. Picking up on that, I extended it by talking about English (implying there won't be a Britain when Scotland goes it's own way) cars being invented and mass produced here. Apart from a relatively few niche, specialist and high end products, the cars that are made in England are for the profit of Japanese, American and German owners. I wonder how long volume car making will remain in England once the owners cease receiving the benefits of EU based production?

Your ARM example is still a mass production exception.

All my other points were not intended to be specifically related to the EU. They were intended to illustrate that we have fewer (next to none) natural resources, (woefully) weaker manufacturing base, less productive workforce (than France and Spain to name two of many) and a more costly workforce than many of our rivals, along with innovative advantages that are no better or worse. However, with that catalogue of disadvantages, coupled with how much financial powerhouse London has benefited from being in the EU, leaving such a powerful trading bloc does seem something of a folly, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]

We can add to these the fact that a huge chunk of the money made in this country is spirited out abroad to avoid tax, once its gone... it's gone !