[Politics] Starmer v Sunak II *** Official Match Thread ***

[Justice]

Bold-eye deers, my daughters will be doing national service.

Crikey.

With two burly security guys protecting them. They would do a couple of days to fly the flag.

 

[HeaviestTed]

I know this isn’t breaking news, but Sunak is a bellend.

Nutsak?

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Sunak won that for me. Starmer " my father was a toolmaker " Classic stuff, laughs and giggles which he did not get, lol

 

[Machiavelli]

Nor Labour, SNP.

The Tories have escaped proper scrutiny during the past 14 (probably 17) years. It's only in the last couple of years that they've really being forensically examined and had a more hostile approach to their time in office. This is in part to do with the control that the press exerts within the media. It's Sunak that has had this accumulated ire turned on him and has handled it pretty well, but looks pretty broken now. I don't feel sorry for him.

 

[Mr Smggles]

What’s the Home Secretary doing with a red hanky in his suit?

 

[chickens]

What do we think? I felt like Sunak did not come out well against the interviewer, but used the “timeshare” tactic to great effect against the public’s questions. For those who saw all of it, was there a clear winner?

 

[Napper]

What do we think? I felt like Sunak did not come out well against the interviewer, but used the “timeshare” tactic to great effect against the public’s questions. For those who saw all of it, was there a clear winner?

Both did better with the audience questions . Sunak heckled more and looked broken .

You gov poll 64% starmer win

Says it all

 

[Is it PotG?]

After all that tonight, I wish everyone the very best for the next 10 years.
I think we'll need it.

 

[oldboyroy]

Sunak was a dead man walking. Starmer won tonight and sky poll gives it 64-36% in Starmer favour

 

[jcdenton08]

That smelt of sadness and failure all around.

 

[jcdenton08]

After all that tonight, I wish everyone the very best for the next 10 years.
I think we'll need it.

Serious question, and I admire you sticking to your guns so I’m not sticking the boot in here, but do you not think even as a staunch right winger there is a place in politics for nuance and balance?

Conservatives are supposed to be the “kings of compromise”.

You are acting like a paid Tory shill, even though you aren’t.

 

[virtual22]

How the hell can Beth ask starmer about his personal tax and whether he is happy to pay more, then not address Rishi who earns millions in the last year and paid 22% tax! So frustrating he’s not held to account on this shit.

We can start addressing the shortfalls by people like him paying what he should, 45% tax!

Also didn’t question him on lying about the £2000 figure at the last debate!

 

[Is it PotG?]

Serious question, and I admire you sticking to your guns so I’m not sticking the boot in here, but do you not think even as a staunch right winger there is a place in politics for nuance and balance?

Conservatives are supposed to be the “kings of compromise”.

You are acting like a paid Tory shill, even though you aren’t.

Never voted Tory in my life, never will.

Still a member of the Young Socialists I believe.

Starmer is NOT the answer, alongside Sunak.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Surely, if you are the current government, all you can realistically pledge is "more of the same for us" as a logical argument.

If you are the current government, and have to pledge radical changes....then by default you are either admitting you have it wrong or that you haven't done enough.

"We will get the NHS working". You've been in charge 14 years.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Starmer failed to answer the first question, 5 times

 

[Bozza]

What do we think? I felt like Sunak did not come out well against the interviewer, but used the “timeshare” tactic to great effect against the public’s questions. For those who saw all of it, was there a clear winner?

Starmer the clear winner for me tonight.

As an aside, when it started, Mrs B (a staunch Tory hater) said: "Starmer looks like Max Headroom". She's right, you know...

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

That smelt of sadness and failure all around.

I've been told that before.

 

[chickens]

Starmer the clear winner for me tonight.

As an aside, when it started, Mrs B (a staunch Tory hater) said: "Starmer looks like Max Headroom". She's right, you know...

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For me (perhaps presciently) he looks more and more like Jim Hacker (Paul Eddington) from Yes Prime Minister.

 

[Bozza]

That smelt of sadness and failure all around.

Was this intended for the Luton away match thread?

(Alternative disappointing match day threads are available)

 

[Is it PotG?]

We have certainly reached the 'we need change, whatever the quality' stage.
All I read is Tories OUT at any cost, not an overwhelming love for the Toolmaker's son.
Not a great start