[Albion] St. George's Day at Wembley

[clapham_gull]

I’m sorry to say, celebrating your pride in your own national heritage will upset someone. Many people in fact. Welcome to Woke Snowflake Land.

And Happy Saint George’s Day for Sunday. Can I say ‘Sunday’? Does ‘Sunday’ offend anyone? Oh, sorry…

All well and good, but we've never really "celebrated" St. George's day in this country not in the way other countries do.

The Church of England is very big on the whole saint thing (unlike the Catholic Church) and particularly not this one. It's historically had an issue with a mythical figure, who killed a dragon and has no connection with this country. It's even argued for an alternative one.

 

[Horses Arse]

As a woke snowflake with zero interest in the concept of saints, patron or otherwise and not someone who is particularly patriotic either, I'd like to say I have no issue with anyone celebrating St George's Day - same as the vast majority of woke snowflakes aren't that bothered. Fill yer boots. No crying into any skinny soy latte's here.

Heritage and identity are important and a big driver of social cohesion and who we are. I think I just feel part of smaller subsets of being English rather than national ones - you'll find me belting out Sussex by the Sea - and I definitely feel part of larger groups of humanity more than specifically English these days. I travel a lot with work all over the world and see fewer and fewer differences between people than ever before. I've never felt less at home in England and more at home in some other countries than I do at the moment. That doesn't make me ashamed of being English though, I just don't feel any particular urge to celebrate it either. But that's beside the point, it's not about me: generally speaking 99.9% of people just want to get along with their lives and don't actually care what other people do or say or think, and tolerant, respectful expressions of identity create curiosity, not animosity.

The 0.01% who get upset by tolerant, respectful expressions of identity are, I think, the ones who are insecure. Their direct mirror are the people who find it impossible to hear the story of how we adopted St George as England's patron saint without thinking it's having a dig at England or taking the mickey or being critical. But as with the 0.01% of woke snowflakes who shout the loudest and give the rest of us a bad name, there's 0.01% of patriotic English people who can't hear the facts about St George without taking it somehow as a personal affront and give those celebrating a bad name. I don't know how people on either side have the energy to be so angry all the time.

Anyway, Happy St George's Day to all who celebrate, I hope you enjoy it.

Brilliant post!

 

[Questions]

If you even say your name is George they’ll attack you nowadays

 

[Eeyore]

As a woke snowflake with zero interest in the concept of saints, patron or otherwise and not someone who is particularly patriotic either, I'd like to say I have no issue with anyone celebrating St George's Day - same as the vast majority of woke snowflakes aren't that bothered. Fill yer boots. No crying into any skinny soy latte's here.

Heritage and identity are important and a big driver of social cohesion and who we are. I think I just feel part of smaller subsets of being English rather than national ones - you'll find me belting out Sussex by the Sea - and I definitely feel part of larger groups of humanity more than specifically English these days. I travel a lot with work all over the world and see fewer and fewer differences between people than ever before. I've never felt less at home in England and more at home in some other countries than I do at the moment. That doesn't make me ashamed of being English though, I just don't feel any particular urge to celebrate it either. But that's beside the point, it's not about me: generally speaking 99.9% of people just want to get along with their lives and don't actually care what other people do or say or think, and tolerant, respectful expressions of identity create curiosity, not animosity.

The 0.01% who get upset by tolerant, respectful expressions of identity are, I think, the ones who are insecure. Their direct mirror are the people who find it impossible to hear the story of how we adopted St George as England's patron saint without thinking it's having a dig at England or taking the mickey or being critical. But as with the 0.01% of woke snowflakes who shout the loudest and give the rest of us a bad name, there's 0.01% of patriotic English people who can't hear the facts about St George without taking it somehow as a personal affront and give those celebrating a bad name. I don't know how people on either side have the energy to be so angry all the time.

Anyway, Happy St George's Day to all who celebrate, I hope you enjoy it.

We have a winner

I don't give a flying flamingo about St George's Day. But if folk want a party then do it.

The problem is debate is hijacked by the extremes these days. I vowed to let them get on with it recently. Life is too short.

Sussex Day though- I'd be up for a game of Stoolball.

 

[Somethingdean]

As is the tradition, I'm going to be wearing my Saint George's cross bodysuit out and about on Sunday. Normally this gets handshakes and applause but in today's woke climate, I imagine I'll get spat on.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Next they’ll be saying that we can’t celebrate Empire Day either

Ironically, while I have no recollection of ever doing anything for St Georges Day, we did do something for Commonwealth Day when I was at primary school (so, some point in the 90s I think).
I remember dressing as a Canadian lumberjack, presumably because my mum had a check shirt and no time or energy to be more imaginative.

 

[Falmer Flutter ©]

You're more than welcome to go the traditional free St George's Day festival in Trafalgar Square in that woke there London before the match on Sunday. Bloody Sadiq Khan.

 

[Bulldog]

God save the King is the British anthem, not England. I say we ditch Georgie boy and go all Edmund, move Edmund's day to summer and go get pissed in the sunshine.

 

[Midget]

Ironically, while I have no recollection of ever doing anything for St Georges Day, we did do something for Commonwealth Day when I was at primary school (so, some point in the 90s I think).
I remember dressing as a Canadian lumberjack, presumably because my mum had a check shirt and no time or energy to be more imaginative.

You went to school in high heels, suspenders and a bra?

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

You went to school in high heels, suspenders and a bra?

No. That would have been silly.

 

[PeterT]

Ironically, while I have no recollection of ever doing anything for St Georges Day, we did do something for Commonwealth Day when I was at primary school (so, some point in the 90s I think).
I remember dressing as a Canadian lumberjack, presumably because my mum had a check shirt and no time or energy to be more imaginative.

Here we go, Empire Day , May 24 1906. Time for another bank holiday in May to be brought back:

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Here we go, Empire Day , May 24 1906. Time for another bank holiday in May to be brought back:

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It's in March nowadays. Yes I did have to look that up.

 

[Commander]

St George is a pretty crap patron saint really, and has nothing to do with England. I'm very proud to be English, but having a 'national day' is for noddy little countries like Ireland and Australia. Let them have their little days and we can just get on with moaning about the weather.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Why is someone called Pure White so upset with snowflakes? Surely snowflakes are as white as you can get? Although I suppose you need to track the clouds to find out where they come from.

 

[GJN1]

Here you go, snowflake.

Not Wembley, but hopefully close enough for some pre-match 'celebrations' of all things English – or wherever 'George' came from...

This is everything you need to know about the St George's Day festival in London

St George's Day is celebrated in Trafalgar Square this year, here's everything you need to know about when, where and what to expect.

www.kilburntimes.co.uk

Maybe just get some cans of bitter in, drape yourself in the Cross of St. George and watch GB News for a few hours. Job done.

 

[Official Old Man]

My town high street is closed for a short while whilst the Scouts (Guides aren't mentioned on the warning sign) march through the town. I bet the only car held up complains about it.

 

[WATFORD zero]

It’s odd that I feel like I’ve always celebrated St George’s a day and others say never.

I guess the difference is whether you were a Scout / Guide or not.

In my youth, we used to properly parade with in-step marching and everything, but over the years it became a walk / stroll / amble with flags.

I also don’t get why all these things have to end with a religious ceremony and that’s what turned me away from the St George’s Day Parades in the end.

They’ll still be going on all over the place this Sunday, though, but with a few less attendees locally, as I know quite a few scouts who are off to Wembley!

I don't get why there has to be a religious ceremony at the end of the Patron Saint's day parade either. Same as the way they always try and crowbar religion into Christmas and Easter

 

[GJN1]

St George is a pretty crap patron saint really, and has nothing to do with England. I'm very proud to be English, but having a 'national day' is for noddy little countries like Ireland and Australia. Let them have their little days and we can just get on with moaning about the weather.

... and devising new and even more moronic plans and policies to kill the country.

 

[Stato]

The annual complaint of the English not celebrating their national identity through St George's Day celebrations shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the English national identity that the complainants are suggesting we celebrate.

1) Saints days are for the Catholics. We had the reformation and purged our protestant nation of Popish idolatory over 500 years ago;
2) The defining characterstic of Englishness is not making a fuss. We don't get overexcited when we are under pressure, and we don't get overexcited about our celebrations.
3) The only exception to (2) is if you take the English and add alcohol. However - because of (1) St George's Day is not a holiday. Give everyone the day off and open the pubs and even the least nationalistic of us will wave a flag and dye our beer red and white. We'll rival the Irish in our devotion to some bloke who we never give a thought to for the rest of the year and wasn't from our country.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

Iirc when in the Cub Scout’s we had some sort of parade through Brighton on the closest Sunday to SG’s day that ended up with a service of some sort at the Dome, all the the Scout groups, Brownies, Guides and even the BB & GB marched through the town centre. I remember one year watching to see the first ever Space Shuttle launch, Columbia I think on the TV’s on display in the COOP in London Road on the corner of Baker Street while we were waiting to start the parade.

I used to hate those cub parades! Weeks spent practicing marching around Patcham old village in the evenings, and then marching through town on the big day.
Complete waste of time imo - no-one ever gave a shit about it, but had to do it.
All we cared about at cubs was going on camp to Park Wood, and the football season (and beating arch rivals the 30th)

FP - 44th alum....Triple Champs '85/'86. Best football Cub Pack in town