yxee
Well-known member
What exactly is sustainable about a bus? Do they not use the same petrol I use in my car? And do trains not run on national grid electricity from coal and gas-fired plants?
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[Albion] Special Buses: Negotiations Ongoing with Alternative Bus Co + "supporter contributiion"
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martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
1 fifty seater bus or 50 cars carrying 1 person, or even 25 cars carrying 2 people, surely you can see the benefit, do you know how many people can fit on one train, 100's
HawkTheSeagull
New member
Special Buses: Negotiations Ongoing with Alternative Bus Co + "supporter contri
Well a bus carries 60-70 people, maybe more, that's 60-70 people not using cars.
1 thing for sure with this though, trains will be getting much busier !!
Well a bus carries 60-70 people, maybe more, that's 60-70 people not using cars.
1 thing for sure with this though, trains will be getting much busier !!
Shhh! The whole thing will unravel if you say that! Repeat the following Park and Ride mantra: Drive, park, and get on fleet of fuel-guzzling, fume-producting buses = GOOD. Drive, park, and walk = VERY VERY BAD!
But yeah, you're correct, for a football stadium there is no such thing 'sustainable transport', fuel gets burnt regardless. Hence my sympathy for the club as they try to square an almost impossible circle.
Hotchilidog
Well-known member
- Jan 24, 2009
- 9,143
It's only increased by an extra £75 if you take the new service. You can still use your ticket for free travel on the scheduled bus and train services within the voucher zone, which these buses cover.
I can understand that those who are using these services feel aggrieved, but the service now being provided by the club (which is still subsidised despite the new charge) should in theory at least be a better one than that which it replaced. I live in central Brighton and have a train ticket that is valid for travel so I get no benefit from the subsidy at all, so these things even out amongst the various transport users.
Hopefully the "improved" service (we'll see how it works before passing judgement) will merit the extra charge.
Sadly the planning constraints have had the club over a barrel. In an ideal world there would be no surcharge but then I think journey times and costs would be higher than they are at the moment for a lot of people, and ironically there would be less complaints.
I appreciate that this post does little to appease those who find they are having to pay extra for something which was already included their ticket price, but I sincerely hope that the new service (which club does have to pay for) makes up for it.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Trouble is most people who used the H/P/R/S buses for the last 2 seasons at the cost of the travel tax and knew by and large it got them to and from the AMEX hassle free will now find a couple of weeks before the start of the season that either they pay a shed load of money or have to make alternative arrangements.
There are going to be loads of unhappy punters and why not make the P & R buses bookable and charge too if that is the case ?
There are going to be loads of unhappy punters and why not make the P & R buses bookable and charge too if that is the case ?
Don't get me started
One Nation under CCTV
- Jul 24, 2007
- 349
The P bus was brilliant, I never left a game early and never missed the bus, it dropped me off where I wanted and it was then a short walk home. This is no more than corporate hogwash as they will be taking a cut. What is happening to this club?
yxee
Well-known member
Point taken, then they should call it "slightly more sustainable" rather than just "sustainable", which is a long way off the truth.
dougdeep
New member
No, they use diesel.
Spun Cuppa
Thanks Greens :(
The club are having it spark off here. Supposedly 'balls up' an announcement re: the new transport plan, and get a complete 'brainstorm' session, with views from all across the spectrum of supporters, via NSC. Much better than a focus group meeting made up of people with no grasp of the situation, as all aspects will be dissected on here with a fine tooth comb, and a satisfactory solution can just be lifted from the discussion. Marvellous work chaps 
The Large One
Who's Next?
Many people walk or cycle. That's sustainable.
The Large One
Who's Next?
They also 'cut out' when at the bus stop.
Dave the OAP
Well-known member
Not that I get the bus, but if you wanted to, what is the mechanics...do you have to book your seat every time you us the bus? Can you pay in advance a la season ticket? Do you phone the seagulls travel lot or the club?
. If you phone the club will you be charged a booking fee? If you have booked a place and the bus doesn't turn up, can you get on another one, although I assume they would also be booked up?
It's all very confusing to an old git like me
. If you phone the club will you be charged a booking fee? If you have booked a place and the bus doesn't turn up, can you get on another one, although I assume they would also be booked up?
It's all very confusing to an old git like me
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
Dave the OAP
Well-known member
Excellent..it's in progress. I wait with baited breath to see how this will work.
True. But a modern club/business has to manage and deal with all information about them whether its from them or not. PR is very important and the club is woeful at this.
Special Buses: Negotiations Ongoing with Alternative Bus Co + "supporter contri
This, although sitting in WSU I missed it a couple of times, as it left before we got there, and we always had to run to get it. Having said that, the solution would have been to lay on a couple more P buses after matches, going at say 10 min intervals, not to abolish the whole bloody thing!
This, although sitting in WSU I missed it a couple of times, as it left before we got there, and we always had to run to get it. Having said that, the solution would have been to lay on a couple more P buses after matches, going at say 10 min intervals, not to abolish the whole bloody thing!
Superphil
Dismember
Special Buses: Negotiations Ongoing with Alternative Bus Co + "supporter contri
If You get the regular, scheduled buses and trains then it won't cost you anything more.
If You get the regular, scheduled buses and trains then it won't cost you anything more.
I presume you don't consume food and drink in order to fuel your walking or cycling and that bicycles are also produced without eating up any resources.
The non-sustainable argument can be taken to extremes, if you remember that it's not just about burning oil in our cars.........