[Football] Southgate

[Pavilionaire]

It is certainly becoming harder to defend Southgate when he ignores Lewis Dunk and we ship 4 goals at home to Hungary, our worst home defeat in decades. He is a better CB than Guehi, Tomori, Coady and Mings.

Furthermore, this 'playing a right back at left back' is bollocks, it's not working.

And he's not getting the most out of players like Grealish or Foden, and he gives too much gametime to the likes of Saka (ordinary) and Sterling (on the wane).

 

[Bakero]

It is certainly becoming harder to defend Southgate when he ignores Lewis Dunk and we ship 4 goals at home to Hungary, our worst home defeat in decades. He is a better CB than Guehi, Tomori, Coady and Mings.

Furthermore, this 'playing a right back at left back' is bollocks, it's not working.

And he's not getting the most out of players like Grealish or Foden, and he gives too much gametime to the likes of Saka (ordinary) and Sterling (on the wane).

Re. Saka. A goal or assist every other game at the age of 20 is hardly ordinary. Especially, in an inconsistent team. Comparable numbers to Foden, who is surrounded by better players in a well-oiled machine.

 

[Seagull58]

It is certainly becoming harder to defend Southgate when he ignores Lewis Dunk and we ship 4 goals at home to Hungary, our worst home defeat in decades. He is a better CB than Guehi, Tomori, Coady and Mings.

Furthermore, this 'playing a right back at left back' is bollocks, it's not working.

And he's not getting the most out of players like Grealish or Foden, and he gives too much gametime to the likes of Saka (ordinary) and Sterling (on the wane).

If Southgate ever picks Guehi again after yesterday's fiasco it proves that either 1. he learns nothing or 2. he has an agenda.

Edit: Dunk was binned after a few training sessions and a decent performance in a 3-0 win so, if Guehi ever plays again the answer is obviously 2.

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Saka should be playing a Cucurella role, not as a forward. Potter will sort it all out next season I expect

 

[keaton]

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-gareth-southgate-england-part-world-cup-england-toxic

I think this calls it right

I've never been a big fan of good selection or tactics but he did seem to get them caring and playing as a team at tournaments and achieving results which no-one has done for a while. I'm not sure you can read too much into some stupid friendlies shoved at the end of a season

 

[keaton]

It is certainly becoming harder to defend Southgate when he ignores Lewis Dunk and we ship 4 goals at home to Hungary, our worst home defeat in decades. He is a better CB than Guehi, Tomori, Coady and Mings.

Furthermore, this 'playing a right back at left back' is bollocks, it's not working.

And he's not getting the most out of players like Grealish or Foden, and he gives too much gametime to the likes of Saka (ordinary) and Sterling (on the wane).

I agree with the left back thing but based on form for club and country Saka is miles above Grealish.
And Tomori has just been one of the key players for the Serie A champions whereas Dunk shouldn't be in our team anymore according to many of our fans

 

[Stat Brother]

When Southgate is leaves/sacked/resigns and the FA appoint Dyche.

What will be fracking hilarious will be the amount of posters, on here, complaining about not getting GPott.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

It is certainly becoming harder to defend Southgate when he ignores Lewis Dunk and we ship 4 goals at home to Hungary, our worst home defeat in decades. He is a better CB than Guehi, Tomori, Coady and Mings.

Furthermore, this 'playing a right back at left back' is bollocks, it's not working.

And he's not getting the most out of players like Grealish or Foden, and he gives too much gametime to the likes of Saka (ordinary) and Sterling (on the wane).

Coady plays in a 3 at Wolves and is good, Southgate plays him in a 2

Dier should have been in the squad after the season he had

Not calling up a LB was just weird, Even if you call up someone he doesn't think is completely ready to help with the balance of the side for the practice.

He is a coward and doesn't want to deal with dropping one of the RBs so calls them all up

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

If Southgate ever picks Guehi again after yesterday's fiasco it proves that either 1. he learns nothing or 2. he has an agenda.

Edit: Dunk was binned after a few training sessions and a decent performance in a 3-0 win so, if Guehi ever plays again the answer is obviously 2.

Guehi is fine, him and Tomori are good, they proved it at club level

 

[drew]

I agree with the left back thing but based on form for club and country Saka is miles above Grealish.
And Tomori has just been one of the key players for the Serie A champions whereas Dunk shouldn't be in our team anymore according to many of our fans

How on earth have you arrived at that?

 

[JBizzle]

Whilst that is mildly amusing, Sir Chris did at least know how to defend well.

In the 25 games Southgate has managed England since the beginning of 2021, England have conceded 10, four of which were in the last match and this includes a run of 9 games without conceding up to the Euros Semi-Final. Up until this last match, our defending has been largely exceptional in terms of goals conceded, especially when you take into account that the defence is mainly made up of Maguire, Stones, Mings and Coady.

 

[keaton]

How on earth have you arrived at that?

Based on numerous after match threads after his red cards, mistakes etc. I don't think they're right

 

[zefarelly]

In the 25 games Southgate has managed England since the beginning of 2021, England have conceded 10, four of which were in the last match and this includes a run of 9 games without conceding up to the Euros Semi-Final. Up until this last match, our defending has been largely exceptional in terms of goals conceded, especially when you take into account that the defence is mainly made up of Maguire, Stones, Mings and Coady.

Good point, and a good record with Mings and Maguire in the team, although most of the opposition haven't been any better than a middle aged NSC/REMF team.

 

[Icy Gull]

Good point, and a good record with Mings and Maguire in the team, although most of the opposition haven't been any better than a middle aged NSC/REMF team.

I am still #teamsouthgate

No change of manager required

 

[zefarelly]

I am still #teamsouthgate

I really don't care. But think I agree, no point changing now, the recent games are meaningless

 

[Icy Gull]

I really don't care. But think I agree, no point changing now, the recent games are meaningless

I probably care less than you

 

[herecomesaregular]

When Southgate is leaves/sacked/resigns and the FA appoint Dyche.

What will be fracking hilarious will be the amount of posters, on here, complaining about not getting GPott.

When Potter leaves I'd be quite happy with him leaving for the England job. That's because I don't think it'll happen for years (he's nowhere near ready nor respected enough by top players) so if he left us for that job it would mean many more years of him at the Albion. And I don't get all this "we must keep him here, I'm not interested in England". I love the Albion, they are my main love outside women, but there is nothing better than watching an England game with friends who all support England rather than watching Albion games with only friends who support BHA. It's a different atmosphere and one to be savoured

 

[Boys 9d]

How many other managers have had a neighbourhood of a town where he was brought up named after him?

 

[Seagull58]

In the 25 games Southgate has managed England since the beginning of 2021, England have conceded 10, four of which were in the last match and this includes a run of 9 games without conceding up to the Euros Semi-Final. Up until this last match, our defending has been largely exceptional in terms of goals conceded, especially when you take into account that the defence is mainly made up of Maguire, Stones, Mings and Coady.

He plays 6 defenders, including Rice and Phillips. In the match he only plays 5 they lose 4-0 at home.

 

[Icy Gull]

He plays 6 defenders, including Rice and Phillips. In the match he only plays 5 they lose 4-0 at home.

And he brings on an out of form defender at 3-0 down, which is just plain weird

Carry on Gareth, I hope we’ll have a great World Cup (I am being serious, the better he does the less chance of our manager being approached)

Does anyone else scratch their head as to why Phillips is so highly rated?