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looney
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- Jul 7, 2003
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The club is being run like Grace Brothers so they may as well make John Inman manager.
at least the poisonus dwarf has sent a club in the right direction up the table rather than down.
Personally would prefer Paolo di Canio or Ossie Ardiles but think the chairman will play safe being a bit green. Well totally green and nieve imo.
at least the poisonus dwarf has sent a club in the right direction up the table rather than down.
Personally would prefer Paolo di Canio or Ossie Ardiles but think the chairman will play safe being a bit green. Well totally green and nieve imo.
what's wrong with playing 'nice' football? surely you haven't been enjoying the guff we've been playing over the past 2 seasons? league 1 football has moved on a bit, it tends to be the passing teams who do well.
i think southgate would be a good option. he lost his way at boro last season. but they did okay in his first proper season in charge - his aim was to create a sort of arsenal of the north east. he tried to create a smooth passing team stocked with players from the acadamy who all could play a bit. he wanted to entertain. he also placed an emphasis on local players to help create a strong bond between the players and the fans. i think he played 11 players from the acadamy in one game, with the majority of that 11 born in or around boro (poor sods!). i think the idea was to augment that local talent with a few top-class signings (like tuncey who's a class act in my opinion). loads of good players have come through the boro acadamy in recent years - downing, wheater, cattermole, adam johnson etc
not sure why but i think he compromised those principles a bit and wasted money on some seriously duff players last season and started to play very defensively to try and stop the rot.
a lot of that might sound familiar - i think wilkins was going for something similar during his tenure with the healthy mix of local lads and wise signings - like nicky forster.
i would love another manger who placed an emphasis on local talent and passing football - i don't know why anybody wouldn't want that for their club?
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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bit of selective reading there: "... and not really get anywhere". I'd love nice football, i would just wonder if a top flight player, whos proabbly a bit of a nice guy, would get the right mentality out of players when things didnt go right results wise. nice football in league 1 will often lead to getting the crap kicked out of you and no result. (although this is becoming less true, with more good football being plated down the leagues)
Goldstone Rapper
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Stout defence of southgate, les, but a manager has to be able to execute. However laudable the dream, he has to be able to cause it to happen.
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
His management style and record speak for themselfs. he could not do it at Boro even with money. so would not want him here.
However he one thing going for him.
He is a Pistols fan
However he one thing going for him.
He is a Pistols fan
The Merry Prankster
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He cannot tie his own tie properly.
CliveWalkerWingWizard
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Why would he come down a division ?
Wasn't he given a special dispensation by the Premier League to continue managing while he did not have the required coaching qualification? If so, did he ever actually get it? Either way, I'm not mad on the thought of him as an appointment. Nice chap but he has done nothing to suggest that he would bring anything significant to the club.
Now here's a thought. Some years ago I was living in Delhi. While I was there the Indian Football Federation appointed a Brit named Stephen Constantine as the national coach. He had previously taken Nepal to their best ranking. He's moved here there and everywhere since and became the national coach for Sudan earlier this year. The guy is qualified to the hilt and is one of the only guys in the country to hold the top UEFA coaching qualification: the Pro Licence.
I got to meet him one evening and we were having a bit of a chat. He was teetotal and wafer thin. He was very big on the physical fitness aspect of the game. He told me that he had applied for just about every position going in the UK, including applications for Brighton more than once. Despite having every qualification going he never even seemed to get so much as an interview. It seemed that as he had no playing pedigree he was not hooked up to the "Old Boys Network".
Why is it that we seem to have a managerial merry go round, where the same faces simply seem to swap seats? Logically, if a manager spectacularly fails they should be removed from the list and make way for new blood. For example, how on Earth did John Barnes ever manage to get the Tranmere job?
I'd just like to see us think a little differently for once and appoint somebody with the qualifications to do the job regardless of whether or not they are a big "name".
Stephen Constantine, Sudan National Team Head Coach, UEFA PRO Licence holder, USSF C Licence, USSF A Licence
Now here's a thought. Some years ago I was living in Delhi. While I was there the Indian Football Federation appointed a Brit named Stephen Constantine as the national coach. He had previously taken Nepal to their best ranking. He's moved here there and everywhere since and became the national coach for Sudan earlier this year. The guy is qualified to the hilt and is one of the only guys in the country to hold the top UEFA coaching qualification: the Pro Licence.
I got to meet him one evening and we were having a bit of a chat. He was teetotal and wafer thin. He was very big on the physical fitness aspect of the game. He told me that he had applied for just about every position going in the UK, including applications for Brighton more than once. Despite having every qualification going he never even seemed to get so much as an interview. It seemed that as he had no playing pedigree he was not hooked up to the "Old Boys Network".
Why is it that we seem to have a managerial merry go round, where the same faces simply seem to swap seats? Logically, if a manager spectacularly fails they should be removed from the list and make way for new blood. For example, how on Earth did John Barnes ever manage to get the Tranmere job?
I'd just like to see us think a little differently for once and appoint somebody with the qualifications to do the job regardless of whether or not they are a big "name".
Stephen Constantine, Sudan National Team Head Coach, UEFA PRO Licence holder, USSF C Licence, USSF A Licence
Kalimantan Gull
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His management style and record speak for themselfs. he could not do it at Boro even with money. so would not want him here.
However he one thing going for him.
He is a Pistols fan
'even with money' - not poor sure, but hardly loaded by premiership terms.
Its tough in that division, you can have the twenty best managers in the world but one of them will still finish bottom.
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- Feb 8, 2005
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Said a similar thing with regards to Stuart Baxter a few days back, I think a British manager who has done good things abroad and has got all the qualifications would be a good shout. Didn't do Gary Johnson any harm and Roy Hodgson had to go abroad to get a look in and he ain't exactly done bad
i guess southgate would say he did execute his plan during his first proper season, with some success too. things went downhill after that though.
perhaps things went wrong becuase he decided to ditch his homegrown players for expensive imports, who turned out to be duds.
Marshy
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I actually think he could turn into a pretty decent manager.
Id prefer a bit of flair like Poyet though.
Id prefer a bit of flair like Poyet though.
withdeanwombat
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Southgate probably wouldn't come here anyway........another waiting for a Prem or Chumpianship job.
Will it be another baldy like the bloke at Gillingham ?
Will it be another baldy like the bloke at Gillingham ?
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Bit of a stupid comment really. What difference does it make to his management crudetials just because he played for Palace and missed a penalty for England.
A good shout I think - if enough of us email him (stephenconstantine@yahoo.co.uk), maybe he'd throw his hat in the ring?!!
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The way I would look at is that Southgate is intelligent and got on pretty well with the supporters at Bro. That was a pretty high pressure job which he handled with composure and I believe he was required to sell players and operate on a restricted budget in the latter stages. The team were doing well in the Championship this season, which is not always the case following relegation.
I feel his personality would assist in dealing with the influences within the club (maybe Lloyd for example) and also that he is a man of honour. So therefore if the club do well and he has a contract, he will keep to it and not move on to other challenges.
The difficulty is of course I am sure he will want to come to us.
I feel his personality would assist in dealing with the influences within the club (maybe Lloyd for example) and also that he is a man of honour. So therefore if the club do well and he has a contract, he will keep to it and not move on to other challenges.
The difficulty is of course I am sure he will want to come to us.