Southern Rail STRIKE details

[The Clamp]

[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] [MENTION=1332]Deadly Danson[/MENTION] will confirm.

It's okay, I don't need them to. I known OBS's are safety trained, thank you so much.

 

[Deadly Danson]

[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] [MENTION=1332]Deadly Danson[/MENTION] will confirm.

Correct. Not to the same standards that the guard used to be although they do have some safety training. That's of course if an OBS even appears. Doesn't matter how much safety training they have if they're not on the train at all.

 

[Postman Pat]

Seems we might be close to a deal with ASLEF again, unless the members reject it again......


A deal is close to being finalised which could end a dispute between Southern and the train drivers' union Aslef.

A statement published on Aslef's website said talks had been held between the union and Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR), Southern's parent company.

It said: "Further discussions between Aslef and GTR have taken place today and significant progress has been made.

"We are now in the process of finalising a proposal for agreement."

Southern has been in dispute with Aslef and the Rail Maritime and Transport (RMT) union over plans to introduce driver only trains.

A previous deal agreed between Aslef and GTR was rejected by members.

Industrial action by Aslef has included strikes and an overtime ban.

RMT members are striking on October 3 and 5.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/15551535.Deal_close_to_being_agreed_in_long_running_train_dispute/

 

[The Clamp]

Well, the trains seem to run better on strike days so nobody is really listening to the whining of the drivers anymore. Fail. They'll have to take a deal soon or face ruin.

 

[pearl]

Well, the trains seem to run better on strike days so nobody is really listening to the whining of the drivers anymore. Fail. They'll have to take a deal soon or face ruin.

1. not on the East coast line, there are huge gaps in the service on strike days (RMT)
2. there is still a lot of public support for train crew
3. agree, they will probably be forced to accept a deal soon
4. face ruin?

 

[Napper]

dipping back into this.

Is this still going on ?

Any deaths yet due to all this ..... no thought not.

How can it still be going on , they lost ages ago

 

[The Clamp]

1. not on the East coast line, there are huge gaps in the service on strike days (RMT)
2. there is still a lot of public support for train crew
3. agree, they will probably be forced to accept a deal soon
4. face ruin?

I'll take your word for it
There is very little public support fro train crew but there is a lot of hatred against Southern. Not the same thing as support for crews.
Good, good. Life goes on.
They'll lose their jobs if they keep throwing their toys out of the pram. People only have so much patience.

 

[1066familyman]

It's okay, I don't need them to. I known OBS's are safety trained, thank you so much.

Are OBS's allowed to go on the tracks then?

 

[pearl]

On the contrary, it is spreading. Anglia, Merseyrail, Arriva Rail North and Southern are striking.

Members of the RMT union at Southern, Merseyrail, Arriva Rail North and Greater Anglia will walk out on 3 and 5 October.
The walk outs will coincide with the closure of Liverpool Lime Street station for major refurbishment.
It will also be during the Tory Party's annual conference in Manchester.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Common sense in Wales

https://twitter.com/ABCommuters/status/913683945501417472

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[AmexRuislip]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41680860

Southern rail drivers are to be balloted on a proposed deal to end their long-running dispute, Aslef has said.

 

[Ernest]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41680860

Southern rail drivers are to be balloted on a proposed deal to end their long-running dispute, Aslef has said.

Unless they guarantee the second person on EVERY train that had one before then expect the same result as before

 

[BensGrandad]

Its getting near Christmas they need to earn the overtime

 

[The Large One]

Its getting near Christmas they need to earn the overtime

A totally irrelevant comment.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Unless they guarantee the second person on EVERY train that had one before then expect the same result as before

I'm guessing that's going to be the sticking point?

 

[Deadly Danson]

Its getting near Christmas they need to earn the overtime

Best not talk nonsense about a subject you very obviously know naff all about.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Unless they guarantee the second person on EVERY train that had one before then expect the same result as before

I'm guessing that's going to be the sticking point?

But surely, the previous ballot was close, so it could go the other way?

 

[Springal]

The proposed agreement also includes a five-year pay deal worth 28.5%.

Good to see this has been included. After all it was never about money

 

[Ernest]

But surely, the previous ballot was close, so it could go the other way?

The clause is still there enabling trains to run without a second person so if everyone votes the same way it will get chucked out

 

[theboybilly]

The proposed agreement also includes a five-year pay deal worth 28.5%.

Good to see this has been included. After all it was never about money

Have you got a link for this?