Southern Rail STRIKE details

[Deadly Danson]

Can't see GTR in a million years offering RMT anything more than they offered ASLEF. In fact, GTR's whole demeanour to date suggests they regard RMT as pretty much irrelevant to their business goals. GTR are only worried about the drivers coming out on strike. That makes the national news. Not that the drivers pussy union leaders give GTR much to worry about. Hopefully ASLEF members will provide a harsh reality check to the guys whose union salaries they pay.

Can't disagree with any of that.

 

[Ernest]

Of course if a significant number of drivers defect from Aslef to join the RMT brings another scenario into play

 

[Springal]

But if drivers vote against the union that makes national news and GTR staff become public enemy #1 .....

 

[pearl]

Of course if a significant number of drivers defect from Aslef to join the RMT brings another scenario into play

can they do that though?

 

[Ernest]

can they do that though?

Course they can, just cancel their direct debit and join the BIG boys at the RMT. The RMT have had a presence as local reps so should have been in with the talks anyway

 

[beorhthelm]

Of course if a significant number of drivers defect from Aslef to join the RMT brings another scenario into play

why aren't a significant number already in RMT, isn't is something like 12 out of ~1000 drivers?

 

[pearl]

Course they can, just cancel their direct debit and join the BIG boys at the RMT. The RMT have had a presence as local reps so should have been in with the talks anyway

OK, guess times have changed, had problems doing this back in 80s, but maybe I was given bullish*t ..... anyways, agree RMT should have been in talks

 

[Ernest]

OK, guess times have changed, had problems doing this back in 80s, but maybe I was given bullish*t ..... anyways, agree RMT should have been in talks

In the 80's you had the closed shop and you had to join what union they told you to, now you're free to choose

 

[pearl]

In the 80's you had the closed shop and you had to join what union they told you to, now you're free to choose

yeah of course ... I had to be in the NGA to do artwork, such a long time ago I'd forgot - thanks

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

yeah of course ... I had to be in the NGA to do artwork, such a long time ago I'd forgot - thanks

I had to be in SOGAT '82. No union membership, no job.

 

[wellquickwoody]

yeah of course ... I had to be in the NGA to do artwork, such a long time ago I'd forgot - thanks

I had to be in SOGAT '82. No union membership, no job.

A lot of ex? printers on here......mmmmm........another one here too.

 

[pearl]

I had to be in SOGAT '82. No union membership, no job.

funnily enough my toothbrush sits in a SOGAT mug :loll:

I had connections with the home in Rottingdean that closed 1998

were you a machine minder?

 

[pearl]

A lot of ex? printers on here......mmmmm........another one here too.

I did artwork/paste up but was so rubbish they moved me to planner/platemaking .... then made redundant when CTP came in

 

[wellquickwoody]

I did artwork/paste up but was so rubbish they moved me to planner/platemaking .... then made redundant when CTP came in

Planner/platemaker and finisher, 25 years ago now.........ouch

 

[Market Porter]

NATSOPA

 

[pearl]

NATSOPA

was anyone in SLADE

 

[Arthur]

Had my compensation email through overnight as did another pal of mine. Check your email folks. You have until the 31st March to claim it.

 

[pearl]

Well as a passenger I'd still rather the train ran than not so they seem reasonable to me.

You're not in a wheelchair or need special assistance then? And let's hope it's not your twelve coach train that has an incident with 1500 people on board with only one driver to deal with things.

when is the result of the vote?

 

[Ernest]

when is the result of the vote?

I believe the 16th is the end of the ballot so maybe Friday ?

 

[Springal]

can they do that though?

They'll do anything to cause massive disruption to innocent commuters. They've obviously been fed up of having to WORK for a change.

Shame as the trains have been pretty decent for the last few weeks