Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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The FA are complete wankers, FACT. They're incredibly hard on struggling teams, they couldn't care less could they.
Southampton deducted 10 points
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keaton
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- Nov 18, 2004
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Wilka
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But surely you can see why they need to try and stop clubs over spending on dreams of getting back into the Premiership while well run clubs suffer.
It's the fact Leicester got away with it a few years ago has cost all these clubs.
murraymints4brighton
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Feel sorry for them as obviously we have been in a similar situation, Although looking forward to a southern derby game next season. Hope they can survive as a football club and i agree Deductions are becoming far too common Do the FA not give a bit of lea way in relation to the current global economic crisis.
SurreySeagulls
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Are they not just too common because clubs chase the dream. I for one am glad the league impose this sanction.
Hard on the fans but that is what football is. You can't choose who to support once you are committed + you take the rough with the smooth. Whilst it is sad for the fans , I'm not to fussed and look forward to hopefully playing them next year on boxing day
skipper734
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Local radio down here in scummer land says the points will be deducted next season in Div 1. So they seem to think they are doomed already.
seagullsovergrimsby
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The 10 points deduction will be imposed next season if they remain in the bottom 3 and are relegated. What will be interesting is them coming out of the cva and additional points being deducted. Will they start the 2009/10 League 1 season on -10 , -17 or -27 ?
- Jul 7, 2003
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Not an unreasonable assumption, given they need to win both their games AND rely on other results.
I don't think the FL have much option. Southampton have blatantly attempted to circumvent the rules by introducing this "holding company" into the mix, and then pretending it isn't relevant.
They are in financial difficulty because they have spent beyond their means. If they hadn't artificially improved their position last season by spending money they evidently don't have, then perhaps one of Leicester, Southend or Scunthorpe wouldn't have been relegated (and suffered financial loss as a result)?
It's all very well saying don't punish the fans, but the fans of the teams (teams that manage their finances properly and adjust their playing budget accordingly) who got relegated last season when perhaps it should have been the Saints in their place have arguably suffered more?
Bit of devil's advocate, you know ;o)
- Jul 7, 2003
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An often repeated sentiment, but when a club does well as a result of dodgy activities off the field, (1) their supporters are happy to enjoy the moment as much as anyone would; and (2) surely the supporters of other clubs who fail as a direct result of the first club's success are being punished too.
Say we were competing at the top of the Championship with another club...let's say hypothetically Plymouth Argyle(unlikely...but work with me here!). Plymouth spend WAY beyond their means, are able to attract players who wouldn't have gone near them otherwise, and grab the second automatic promotion slot. The Albion, meanwhile, are condemned to the play offs and subsequently lose. The next season, Plymouth have secured a tidy piece of the Premier League TV deal pie, and secured their financial future as a result.
Would our fans not thereby be punished as a result of Plymouth's activity? Would you be calling for a merely financial punishment for them then?
Thats pretty much right and we only have to look back to how Leicester got away with it to realise the new leglislation is fair.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I think the penalty fits the crime, but ultimately this is all about player wages.
This is especially sad because historically Southampton was one of those well-run 'family' clubs who frequently punched above their weight and have had some memorable players.
It wasn't so long ago they reached the Cup Final vs Arsenal and banked a decent wedge on selling Walcott. This is not the end but will put paid to their chances of ever hoping to be a force in the Prem for at least a decade.
This is especially sad because historically Southampton was one of those well-run 'family' clubs who frequently punched above their weight and have had some memorable players.
It wasn't so long ago they reached the Cup Final vs Arsenal and banked a decent wedge on selling Walcott. This is not the end but will put paid to their chances of ever hoping to be a force in the Prem for at least a decade.
- Jul 7, 2003
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The interesting thing at the moment is that they'll probably be relegated anyway.
That would cause some of their better players to leave. If they then start next season minus ten points, it will impact on even more players, who perhaps think they're better than they are, and also demand transfers. They have a decent youth team with some good prospects, but I'm not sure a bunch of youngsters will be suited to League One football.
They could find themselves in trouble again...imagine the Saints in League Two, come summer 2010.
*snigger*
That would cause some of their better players to leave. If they then start next season minus ten points, it will impact on even more players, who perhaps think they're better than they are, and also demand transfers. They have a decent youth team with some good prospects, but I'm not sure a bunch of youngsters will be suited to League One football.
They could find themselves in trouble again...imagine the Saints in League Two, come summer 2010.
*snigger*
Glad to see it happen. Feel for the fans though. If the FL had any backbone like the Conference they would expell any club that went in administration like they did with Boston, who were relegated 2 leagues. They have to send a message to the clubs to be responsible with their finances. I do like how they handled the points deduction this time, make sure not to experience another farce.