sonic boom ban..?

[Cian]

I think you'll find that most of the under 25's consist of students anyway so in essence you are referring to all under 25's (apart from those select few that have finished uni/didn't go etc.).

I'm under 25, I'm not a student, I've been a tax payer for 5 years, currently paying enough via income tax + fuel duties alone to pay the dole of some 55 year old scumbag who doesn't have to hear potentially damaging tones when he goes to buy his 20 Majors and a copy of The Star in the morning...

 

[Conkers]

it is only a minor irritation , you go in a shop , buy something and then leave. I've had to put up with loud machinery noise working in a factory which you can still hear even with ear defenders on , I've accepted it.

What? Sorry what's that got to do with devices being placed in shops to deter a certain group of people? Everyone can hear the loud machinery, not just the under 25's.

I've got to put up with cars going past the front of my house. I've accepted it........wow, great. Pointless comment.

 

[Conkers]

This topic begs the question:
If I owned a shop and I personally thought that people over 40 were a nuisance and being *ahem* disrespectful (god forbid), and I fitted a device to piss off the over 40's to ensure they don't shop here, would the over 40's be up in arms saying they are being discriminated against?
You bet your life they would. Why? Because they are being generalised and lumped all into the same bag? Bingo.

 

[Mr deez]

Are these things common then? I've never encountered one.. but then, how would I know? I'm 31.

Seems kind of odd there's this noise going on that I'm completely unaware of.

 

[Cian]

Are these things common then? I've never encountered one.. but then, how would I know? I'm 31.

Seems kind of odd there's this noise going on that I'm completely unaware of.

Common enough on convenience stores in poor areas, at least over here. Found at least one petrol station using one, though.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

And I know from the sectors I've worked in theres a very sizeable percentage of 40+ year olds with no respect. Possibly more so than under 25s, in fact.

I believe I've worked in two identical sectors to you - British Telecom and Sky installation - as it happens. When doing Sky work, it was mid 40s men who assumed they knew *everything* about their overpriced TV setup attempting to tell you how to do your job and getting highly agressive. In BT, it was mid 40s women getting extremely strung up over "I work with computers, I know what I'm doing" when they could barely plug a cable in. Never had such issues with under 25s in either job, as it happened. And you'd get lots more younger people getting Sky in in the area I worked (student town) than older people...

I think there is a link between those 40+ year olds and the under 25's - parent and child. Thatchers generation of youth grew up and have passed on their attitude to their kiddies. I only worked for BT and the reason there is such a plethora of mid 40 year old women is because all the employees with any experience and knowledge for the job have left leaving behind agency staff who dont really have a clue. I have never worked for Sky but have been interested in satellite TV since 1995.

 

[beorhthelm]

so, we should use this device that inconveniences all under 25s and probably scares small children so combat the 0.01% of teenagers that cause trouble?

how about we ban under 25's from football games, after all most of the trouble makers come from that age group?

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

This topic begs the question:
If I owned a shop and I personally thought that people over 40 were a nuisance and being *ahem* disrespectful (god forbid), and I fitted a device to piss off the over 40's to ensure they don't shop here, would the over 40's be up in arms saying they are being discriminated against?
You bet your life they would. Why? Because they are being generalised and lumped all into the same bag? Bingo.

All old people dont play Bingo

 

[Conkers]

All old people dont play Bingo

Isn't that the only thing old people do with their pension money?

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

so, we should use this device that inconveniences all under 25s and probably scares small children so combat the 0.01% of teenagers that cause trouble?

how about we ban under 25's from football games, after all most of the trouble makers come from that age group?

The shopkeepers using these mosquito boxes have installed them to stop the yobbos hanging around outside their shop - once they have dispersed the noise can be switched off - unless you live in a rough part of town and it needs to be kept on all the time.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Isn't that the only thing old people do with their pension money?

No , a lot of them have expensive drug habits (cough mixture and headache tablets)

 

[Cian]

I think there is a link between those 40+ year olds and the under 25's - parent and child. Thatchers generation of youth grew up and have passed on their attitude to their kiddies. I only worked for BT and the reason there is such a plethora of mid 40 year old women is because all the employees with any experience and knowledge for the job have left leaving behind agency staff who dont really have a clue. I have never worked for Sky but have been interested in satellite TV since 1995.

It was half the customers and half the staff in BT!

Dunno where I got the impression you worked for Sky. I didn't ether, I worked for a subbie that dropped the Sky contract shortly afterwards - just did indie installs... just as many muppets though.

 

[e77]

What would people think if it was a device to scare away women, gays or blacks?

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

What would people think if it was a device to scare away women, gays or blacks?

What would people think if it was a device to scare away paedophiles ?

 

[Cian]

What would people think if it was a device to scare away paedophiles ?

Erm, are you even half-way serious in comparing there? :thud:

 

[sten_super]

I haven't seen/heard them (I am under 25) but the BBC article said that they switch themselves off after 20 minutes. It also said that they only get particularly annoying after 5/10 minutes.

I'm all for them. Of course the majority of under 25s aren't rowdy yobs, but we have to face up to the fact that some of them are. If these devices can be used from time to time to disperse them and save retail workers some hassle, then it's all good with me. As long as it's not used as a way of 'solving' the problem of yobs on our streets causing problems, and being in an anti-social fashion.

 

[Trufflehound]

What would people think if it was a device to scare away women, gays or blacks?

This would probably work (would work on me as well)...

 

[Les Biehn]

Shitting hell, a whole evening with that ****.

 

[steward 433]

YEAH these things are great NOT my little boy spent 2 days in hospital due to us shopping in London and not being aware of the noise, They should be banned as they damage small childrens hearing and yes it is PERMANENTLY damaged too

Saw a solicitor and he said there is nothing within the law that we could do

 

[Nibble]

I think you'll find that most of the under 25's consist of students anyway so in essence you are referring to all under 25's (apart from those select few that have finished uni/didn't go etc.).

Again, you are just stereotyping the younger generation. I (being a uni student) have never ever had a house party that has been out of hand/loud/a nuisance etc. In fact our neighbours last year were the head of the neighbourhood watch for the few roads we lived in, and they advocated our behaviour because we were very respectful/quiet etc etc.

You just can't seem to accept the fact that there are a HUGE number of under 25's that are exactly what you see as a "socially responsible" member of society. Those that are respectful, those that are quiet, those that do help old people with their shopping.

These devices are a nuisance to these people that have done absolutely nothing wrong. Disgraceful to be perfectly honest.

I think students being approved by neighbourhood watch members is the real problem. Squares.