Somalia and South Sudan to receive £100 million each in UK aid

[carlzeiss]

More than a million lives are hoped to be saved by the measures

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...emergency-food-dfid-priti-patel-a7592561.html

 

[Chicken Run]

Wonder what the NHS could do with that money?

 

[Titanic]

Wonder what the NHS could do with that money?

A 0.14% increase in NHS spending would clearly have some impact, but then again probably not so as you would notice.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Wonder what the NHS could do with that money?

A drop in the ocean compared to the promise of £350m per week once we Brexit.

 

[MattBackHome]

Obviously a good thing. But I have a feeling that the govt could have acted sooner on this given the escalation in warnings from DFID, FO, Amnesty, HRW etc.

On a side note I don't trust Priti Patel at all.

 

[nicko31]

I'm waiting for a bongo bongo statement from UKIP

 

[sjamesb3466]

I just hope the food and water gets to the people that need it and it doesn't fall into the hands of either side in the civil wars as it will undoubtedly be used as a recruiting tool to further their cause (join us and your family can eat).

Whilst I do think that the UK needs to be part of the international community that helps in these situations I find it very depressing that those in power in these countries still seem to find the money to buy guns and ammunition.

Somalia has been in ruins for over 20 years with little sign of improvement, what the solution is I don't think anyone knows. A perfect example however of how pointless an organisation the UN is.

 

[Soulman]

I'm waiting for a bongo bongo statement from UKIP

As opposed to a stupid statement/post from you.

 

[Stat Brother]

All geopolitical and/or religious debates on here have become identical.

I wonder when we can lump this thread in with Trump, Brexit, Corbyn, and Islam.


"Let the blinkered vision and name calling commence".

 

[MattBackHome]

A perfect example however of how pointless an organisation the UN is.

I agree with the rest of your post but am not sure that's entirely fair. The UN have been key in reporting on political developments, the evolution of the war, Al Shaabab and coastal piracy etc. They've brokered numerous peace agreements between warring factions and facilitated the involvement of untold numbers of NGOs. They've coordinated, or been involved in, all of the humanitarian assistance so far since 1990 ish. They've deployed forces, though the im[pact of these in the most hard hit areas is perhaps debateable.

They perhaps could have done more, but the fact that it's a shitpit now doesn't mean that it wouldn't be worse, or a much larger shitpit without the help of the UN.

 

[wellquickwoody]

On a side note I don't trust Priti Patel at all.

Daft woman said that this is 'an unprecedented famine' on the Beeb this morning, guess she doesn't know who Bob Geldof is?

 

[Martlet]

I get pretty confused by the "shut the doors and give it to the NHS" argument. What are we supposed to, sit back, let people starve and not expect them to try to flee to better lives in Europe?

A bit like football - you have a choice, either set the first line of defence up the field (which incidentally led to our second goal on Saturday) or sit further and further back, and try to block the goal through sheer weight of numbers.

We can either try to stop these problems happening in the first place, delivering acute aid when they're really bad - or, if we don't, we'd better start spending a damn site more on border patrols, detention centres and deportation costs, as the problems aren't going to go away on their own....

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

More than a million lives are hoped to be saved by the measures

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...emergency-food-dfid-priti-patel-a7592561.html

couldn't the Somalian gangsters in London dig into their pockets?
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I get pretty confused by the "shut the doors and give it to the NHS" argument. What are we supposed to, sit back, let people starve and not expect them to try to flee to better lives in Europe?

A bit like football - you have a choice, either set the first line of defence up the field (which incidentally led to our second goal on Saturday) or sit further and further back, and try to block the goal through sheer weight of numbers.

We can either try to stop these problems happening in the first place, delivering acute aid when they're really bad - or, if we don't, we'd better start spending a damn site more on border patrols, detention centres and deportation costs, as the problems aren't going to go away on their own....

HOW ABOUT GETTING THEIR COUNTRYS LEADERS TO GET THEIR HOUSE IN ORDER
regards
DR

 

[e77]

HOW ABOUT GETTING THEIR COUNTRYS LEADERS TO GET THEIR HOUSE IN ORDER
regards
DR

Possibly starting with education on the use of Caps Lock?

 

[Bold Seagull]

HOW ABOUT GETTING THEIR COUNTRYS LEADERS TO GET THEIR HOUSE IN ORDER
regards
DR

Forgetting the grammar lesson for now, perhaps just take a history one.

 

[Brighton Mod]

Be careful what you wish for, I have considerable experience of Somalia and had seen millions of pounds given there in differing ways and by many conduits. £100m doesn't mean £100m to starving children who become dependent on overseas hand outs, but means £40m channelled through Save the Children, £1 through Oxfam etc etc. The best performers I ever saw were Medicins Sans Frontier and Medicins du Monde. The worst performers I ever saw were the UN and the EU, both self serving, first to run when it became difficult and both just so poorly out of control financially it actually became embarassing. Dig deep to find the real story and you'll find out how little much reaches its target. Aid is a racket and a huge industry now.

 

[Brighton Mod]

I agree with the rest of your post but am not sure that's entirely fair. The UN have been key in reporting on political developments, the evolution of the war, Al Shaabab and coastal piracy etc. They've brokered numerous peace agreements between warring factions and facilitated the involvement of untold numbers of NGOs. They've coordinated, or been involved in, all of the humanitarian assistance so far since 1990 ish. They've deployed forces, though the im[pact of these in the most hard hit areas is perhaps debateable.

They perhaps could have done more, but the fact that it's a shitpit now doesn't mean that it wouldn't be worse, or a much larger shitpit without the help of the UN.

The UN, what a joke they are, I spent six weeks in Somalia attempting to find the then Zone Director of East Africa in the bush with tribal elements and gaining intelligence to find out that he had flown back to Ghana...... along with $1m. You have to see these people to believe the life style they live, the UN representatives are the new colonial powers, spending unaccountably other peoples money. They are poor beyond belief, would you allocate your best ambassadors to the UN? of course not, jobs for the boys.

 

[Giraffe]

How much is everyone else giving?

 

[Bold Seagull]

How much is everyone else giving?

By executive order, rather than giving, the US is actually taking back some slaves they were owed from the early 1800s...