crodonilson
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[Other Sport] Sol Campbell
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Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Managed 4 wins in 23 games, not very good
Pierre the Painter
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- May 20, 2020
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Appalling record, not liked by the U's fans and alleged not to have made any contact with any of the players to check on their welfare during lockdown.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Obviously nothing to do with the colour of his skin then.
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
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I sense a bear pit thread. Clearly the correct decision though, Southend fans seem to think he’s tactically useless despite the fact their squad isn’t all that bad.
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
NO. We do not need any more centre backs.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
We could sign him as a CB then loan him to Leeds.
Yes, and let's hope it stays that way. If idiots turn it into a racism shit-storm, far from progressing towards equality they will potentially actually hinder the progress of future black managers - chairmen may start being put off employing a black manage for fear of being labelled a racist when the time comes (as it almost inevitably will) to sack them. Like we were by some idiots when we sacked CH.
smartferndale
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- Mar 21, 2013
- 113
Look at the squad he had to use, league position when he took over, money to bring in new players etc. Not sure anyone could have done better. I am sure there will be a queue for this position which is a poison chalice.
Predict a struggle again next season.
Predict a struggle again next season.
Why? Manager who hasn't done well leaves club at the end of their season. His race is utterly irrelevant. Why play the Bear Pit card before someone plays the race card (and that someone can just be thread banned)?
John Byrnes Mullet
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That is a awful win ratio. Sacking him was the right decision and if he or others moan why he has not been given a chance to manage at a higher level because of his skin colour then they should think again. If he had 14 wins in 23 games then I am sure the opportunity to manage at a higher level would have been made available to him.
Nope, but very important to bring up - imagine a black man doing something or not doing something, succeeding or failing, and then not discuss the colour of his skin. That would be a crazy world to live in. What would we talk about if that wasnt the case? His personality? His competence as a manager? His results compared to the quality of the Southend squad? Too weird. Too complicated. Another 25 pages of debates surrounding the colour of his skin is clearly the civilised way to go about it.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Well the Shrimpers were absolutely awful long before he took over the reins, l certainly wouldn't put their demise totally down to him. He had done a pretty good job at Macclesfield previously.
You are the second person to say 'if' that....
But nobody has said it (on this thread, up to your post, anyway).
I think this is yet another crodo fishing thread, and he's getting bites already. I'm out.
The Wizard
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He’s been a very prominent voice of the lack of BAME coaches and normally on NSC it’s only a matter of time before someone sticks the cat amongst the pigeons so to speak
But yes, as you say unfortunately for Sol, things have gone really badly at Southend. Tough break, wonder where his next job will be, maybe a more high profile job given the publicity around lack of minority managers and coaches being more prominent now?
What's your opinion of Sol Campbell as a football manager and his departure from Southend?
The Wizard
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Throwing around the term racist is not acceptable IMO, and if you’ve reported those you believe to be racist and they haven’t been banned then the moderators have obviously evaluated that they are not racist as I’m sure racism is not tolerated on here.This wasn’t why I was saying it might end up in the bear pit, just to clarify. They’ve split terms by mutual consent apparently so it clearly was felt it wasn’t working from both sides, which is fair enough.
The Twitter world thinks he's going to Barrow once Evatt has gone to Bolton (I'm not sure Bolton is much a step up TBH).
I think Campbell is worst enemy as he's not as good as he thinks he is. On the other hand, he did a very good job at Macclesfield (they looked relegation certs when he took over) and didn't have much to work on at Southend so I also think that he's better than a lot of his detractors give him credit for.
thedonkeycentrehalf
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- Jul 7, 2003
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One of the arguments going around the other week was around why certain former international players were not getting the opportunities. I fear Campbell may be another Ince - did a good job at Macc but failed elsewhere.
This is nothing to do with race - just because you were a good player (and few would deny that either Campbell or Ince were not good players) does not mean you will make a good manager. Bobby Charlton and Bobby Moore are two of England's greatest players but both failed miserably in management.
This is nothing to do with race - just because you were a good player (and few would deny that either Campbell or Ince were not good players) does not mean you will make a good manager. Bobby Charlton and Bobby Moore are two of England's greatest players but both failed miserably in management.