So the sacking of Wilkins was abit genius?

[sten_super]

The evidence produced by Reid, Hart was that they didnt think much of Wilkins, course they didnt, Wilkins felt that in most ways those players were irrelevent to the clubs progress, now you might think that they were the way forward but I am guessing even you might decide against that defence, so your own 'evidence ' is foolish.

Of course it is true that DK sacked him, so in his mind Wilkins was not the man for the job, I am suggesting that Wilkin's himself might have a view of DK own role in certain issues that he himself found unacceptible.

There was always going to be one winner, and it was never Wilkins.

But when you posted saying 'Wilkins had to go' I had hoped you might of offered something a little enlightening than the recycled Reid & Hart got the hump. Big Deal.

So thats your evidence is it .... ??

Bhadeb's looking a more credible witness than you !!!

It's post like this that convince me that you are on a windup. You summarily dismiss my evidence (from two players, the chairman and the board) with no logic, and then, yet again, pedal the story that you want to believe, with no evidence, nothing in fact apart from conjecture and brazen speculation. And then you have the nerve to accuse me of not backing up my argument! You are so incredibly myopic.

edit: just to add, I generally really enjoy NSC, and all the associated banter. Even most of the idiotic posts are pretty entertaining. But people that refuse to see/have no reason, are completely unwilling to enter into any kind of logic debate or even thought process, really depress me. Why do you do it? What kind of kick do you get out of it?

 

[BigGully]

Oh, so you are just guessing? making it up? or it's secondhand tittle-tattle? That explains it then.

No ........ not at all.

I will not reveal any 'so-called' sourse that many are so keen for, however you too, do not seem to divulge any knowledge why you felt that Wilkins tenure did not reflect professionalism.

I know that Mayo pronounced that Wilkins coaching was the best around and it seems that the clubs efforts to keep him in a first team coaching role would reflect that credential.

However you have posted that your view is that actually he wasn't that professional.

Are you likely to divulge the players whom offered this view ??

 

[BigGully]

It's post like this that convince me that you are on a windup. You summarily dismiss my evidence (from two players, the chairman and the board) with no logic, and then, yet again, pedal the story that you want to believe, with no evidence, nothing in fact apart from conjecture and brazen speculation. And then you have the nerve to accuse me of not backing up my argument! You are so incredibly myopic.

We know he got sacked and by whom, that we can agree on, however the reasonings are less clear.

You choose to offer Hart & Reid articles as confirmation that Wilkins had to go, you serious ??

So if Lynch can rustle up a mate or two within the squad who might also be frustrated at present, can we expect Adams to get sacked ??

 

[Keeping The Dream Alive.]

From what I've heard, Glenn Murray did not get on with Dean Wilkins.

 

[Titanic]

The FACT that the board UNANIMOUSLY voted to SACK him as manager, is quite enough for me. Dick Knight is a minority shareholder, if any of the other directors, or major shareholders had not agreed to this decision then it would not have happened.

What I have heard directly from players mouths only goes to confirm that it was a good decision. They are players whose professionalism and contribution to our club I respect and value and who have no reason to be anti-Wilkins in any way.

Enough.

 

[BigGully]

From what I've heard, Glenn Murray did not get on with Dean Wilkins.

It really depends from who you heard it from, doesnt it ?

 

[Keeping The Dream Alive.]

It really depends from who you heard it from, doesnt it ?

It does, but I would say it's reliable.

 

[sten_super]

We know he got sacked and by whom, that we can agree on, however the reasonings are less clear.

You choose to offer Hart & Reid articles as confirmation that Wilkins had to go, you serious ??

So if Lynch can rustle up a mate or two within the squad who might also be frustrated at present, can we expect Adams to get sacked ??

Yes, I am entirely serious. If you can offer up two or more players that are willing to go on record and say that all is not well in Mickey's camp, and that there are serious problems, then yes, I would take that as indicative that there are serious problems. It is called ACCEPTING EVIDENCE.

Oh, and as a side note, it does not appear that we can agree on who sacked him. Do you really believe that the majority shareholders would not be the one's making the decision? Or, at the very least, that if they didn't agree that they may discuss it with DK? No matter what you want to believe, the club is not run as an autocracy. DK does not own anywhere near enough shares for that. Implicitly or explicitly, every decision that DK makes has the backing of the club's board.

 

[Dr Bandler]

Answer The Question

BigGully,

Answer my question - what is your goal?

 

[BigGully]

The FACT that the board UNANIMOUSLY voted to SACK him as manager, is quite enough for me. Dick Knight is a minority shareholder, if any of the other directors, or major shareholders had not agreed to this decision then it would not have happened.

What I have heard directly from players mouths only goes to confirm that it was a good decision. They are players whose professionalism and contribution to our club I respect and value and who have no reason to be anti-Wilkins in any way.

Enough.

But those players current stock within the club at the time Wilkins was there is the critical factor if you want others to accept their views.

Irrespective of their contribution in the past, those views are less relevant if they weren't playing at the time.

Mayo & Hart have contributed in the past as has Reid, but that doesnt make their parting shot any more credible.

I would supect Hart & Mayo are ecstatic at being given another year whereas Wilkins wanted to move them on, so I know where their vote is going !!

Why are some on here so star struck when they share a moment with a player, they cannot accept any view othe than that given by that player.

Were those players first team regulars last season ??

 

[Titanic]

...Were those players first team regulars last season ??

Yes.

 

[BigGully]

BigGully,

Answer my question - what is your goal?

I think you will find that the thread was about the sacking of Wilkins and so I am discussing it.

You may not agree so what, if you want a debate happily join in, if not then dont.

 

[BigGully]

Yes.

How many syllables ??

Film ??

Book