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So Stephen Ward was ours for the asking all summer...........



Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
It seems that Burnley became interested when the story broke on Sky Sports News that he was IMMINENTLY signing for us. His agent would have known what our best and final offer on the table was when contacted by them.

Burnley became interested, contacted his agent and made an offer all within hours, because it was on tv?
Ok, string Burke up now, for not acting so quickly.
 






spanish flair

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2014
2,349
Brighton
Burnley became interested, contacted his agent and made an offer all within hours, because it was on tv?
Ok, string Burke up now, for not acting so quickly.

Well he was the player wanted and should have been signed prior to the Spain tour not 5 days after the season started, so yes string Burke up.
 


ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
Sorry if it's been said already but that article is absolute bollocks. The quote "David and I had worked constantly to try and get it over the line, but it kept breaking down" says it all.

ONE side must have been the one causing that to happen, otherwise the deal was done.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,943
Crap Town
Burnley became interested, contacted his agent and made an offer all within hours, because it was on tv?
Ok, string Burke up now, for not acting so quickly.

From what it says in The Argus , Ward's agent was telling Burke over the summer there was interest from other clubs. Ward and his agent were in Brighton all ready to go through the medical and sign a contract. We allowed Burnley to intervene :rant:
 




spanish flair

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Jan 30, 2014
2,349
Brighton
From what it says in The Argus , Ward's agent was telling Burke over the summer there was interest from other clubs. Ward and his agent were in Brighton all ready to go through the medical and sign a contract. We allowed Burnley to intervene :rant:

Sounds as though Wolves would or did pull the plug with us the moment Burnley offered them more money.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Sorry if it's been said already but that article is absolute bollocks. The quote "David and I had worked constantly to try and get it over the line, but it kept breaking down" says it all.

ONE side must have been the one causing that to happen, otherwise the deal was done.

Exactly. Who would gain the most? Who gets the payment for a deal?
Who would trust a football agent?
 


aftershavedave

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Jul 9, 2003
7,140
as 10cc say, not in hove
Sounds as though Wolves would have pulled the plug with us the moment Burnley offered them more money.

i'm not sure that's the case. the article is saying as i read it, in a nutshell, that we had ward on loan for the season before and could quite easily have tied up a deal quickly thereafter. the chances of burnley having ward as their number one priority at that time would have been zero.

as much as some posters (at least one multiple times on this thread alone) would like, an early deal would have attracted little attention. yet i also thought it was common knowledge/ assumption on here that we were making him wait because we wanted a good/better/wring the last penny of potential saving deal. and in so doing, for a relatively small amount of money (and weeks after pocketing £mms on ulloa) the club pushed it that little bit too hard and lost out.

and that's not clever, and repeats a pattern established with grabban et al
 






Wilko

LUZZING chairs about
Sep 19, 2003
9,927
BN1
Burnley became interested, contacted his agent and made an offer all within hours, because it was on tv?
Ok, string Burke up now, for not acting so quickly.

"We really tried our best to make Stephen Ward a permanent Brighton player. Had they done their business earlier this wouldn't have happened."

I am sure Ward would have wanted a nice early contract, relax over the summer break and then train with his new club. As it was we sat back for over 3 months and knobbed it RIGHT up.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
A healthy debate; but the actual article is pretty pi*s poor and typical of the Ar*egas. No club comment

Looks to me as if the Argus were pretty much just reporting what the agent said. Hardly their fault (and scarcely surprising) that the club declined to comment.
 




APACHE

LONGTIME DIEHARD
Feb 18, 2011
758
THE PROMISED LAND-SUSSEX
People are popping off at the club about the transfer but lets remember before there were agents, nearly all transfers went through without the public knowing until the player had signed. Lets have no doubt that the agent would have been phoning any club he thought could have been interested in his player, it's called commission, and I bet he shed no tears when Burnley came in offering bigger money.
 




Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,790
Brighton
Christiano Ronaldo would also have been 'ours' if Real Madrid hadn't stepped in with a 'bigger fee, higher wages and longer contract' ?

:shrug:

I think you missed the point, or chose to ignore it to make the joke, but if you didn't.
Had we signed him earlier in the close season when we had the opportunity he would have been singed and contracted thus Burnley would not have, or been able to make the better offer to a free agent.
 




symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
We shot ourselves in both feet on that deal. Not only did we miss out on a good permanent signing, we have also maxed out on loans, to the point that his half decent replacement cannot even make the squad.

Another example of where saving money actually costs us more, in league position and financially.
 




durrington gull

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Aug 29, 2004
2,330
Worthing
Changing the subject slightly I still can't believe we recalled Chicksen early to replace Bennett last week, I was convinced he must of been injured and was staggered when it was squad rotation.

Anyway I think Bennett is definetely one of our best players this season.
Totally agree and just shows how clueless sami is
 


durrington gull

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Aug 29, 2004
2,330
Worthing
. If Andrews was available now i would have him in my team like a shot ! a leader.

You are not allowed to have that opinion because those on here who know everything and are experts on FM say he was crap. He will be available in 2 weeks as Watford have terminated his loan and I agree I would get him back asap?[/QUOTE]
Cast your mind back last season and you may remember Andrews was crap!!, slow, never hit a forward pass and constantly caught in possession!!- give Ince a go or Holla who are miles better and are not past it like Andrews
 






Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
I'm of the opinion that the club should have acted more decisively, and if they had either we would have signed Ward with Burnley thinking they could do better over the rest of the summer, or forcing Burnley's hand early in the summer giving us more time to find a permanent replacement rather than having to go the loan route. I think the club exploit fans' ignorance of the transfer/wages budgets to spin things however they need them to (increase in the budget, gus overspent, etc). I like that they are trying to stick to a bidget, but would like to think there was leeway to absorb the small increase (i.e. the added amount Wolves supposedly wanted to cover Ward's contract).


But in all this, my question is: why was the interview even done? How often does the build up to a game feature an interview with the agent of a former player?

Is this simply trouble making by Andy Naylor, stirring ill will toward the club due to still being on the outs (a position I'd prefer a local journo to be, rather than in the club's pocket).
Does the agent represent another player we are trying to get or he is trying to shop to us (he talks about tarnished relationships, seems to be trying to justify going elsewhere, while also complimenting Bloom and Burke - yes he blames them, but that could be construed as an attempt to pressure them to act on the new client rather than miss out like they did with Ward)
Have I missed some major incident, some sort of abuse toward Ward for making his decision that the agent feels the need to give this interview to protect him?
 


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