so as ian hart keeps reminding us.THAT DICK KNIGHT PROMISED THAT NEVER AGAIN WILL

[3gulls]

Oh dear, what a very silly post.

1. Where is your evidence for getting 'a stadum on the cheap'? £2.5m so far spent with no guarantee of return for a project which could ultimately cost £60m is hardly cheap. Unless of course you are minted - in which case, why haven't you put any significant money in?

2. Any location in or near Brighton is controversial. The city is full up. The Downs to the north and the sea to the south and a lack of brownfield sites hampers ANY building project, which is why so many plans are being submitted for tower blocks. We can only build UP.

Successive boards have tried to move away from the Goldstone almost since we moved in in 1902. No-one with anything like enough planning expertise has been utilised or employed by the club until Martin Perry turned up. That shows how much of a pain in the arse the possibility of moving the club has been. In other words, these previous boards took two looks at their pie in the sky ideas, realised the aggravation involved, and decided not to bother.

3. A Board with real money? Which board is that then? The one in your fantasies which has yet to make itself known?

4. This current Board HAS given priority to this project. It’s the single biggest thing occupying the board. That's why it is costing us so much money, and why we are not spending silly money on new players. The speed to which you refer is not of the club's doing - it's the government. Now do you honestly think the Brighton & Hove Albion FC can tell HM Government exactly what to do and when to do it?

But all of this stuff is in the public domain and has been for ages. I suppose one can't help it if not everyone pays enough attention before gabbing off.

Point 1 - yes on the cheap, because it is to be paid for largely by hand-outs. £60 million for a multi-function stadium is not a large sum of money in construction terms anyway.

Point 2 - please read more carefully next time! I said Sussex, not just Brighton. We are a Sussex team - Brighton is full of puffs with no interest in a man's game!

Point 3 - we can all live in hope of your gay lover DK fuc*ing off soon!

Point 4 - the Board's priority does not appear to be speed of build but maximising hand-outs and subsidies. IF we had a Board with real money, they would have found a site somewhere in Sussex where planning was not the type of problem that it is at Falmer, paid real cash for the land - and got our stadium built!

Finally, don't call my posts silly you fat patronising bastard!

 

[Digweeds Trousers]

3 Gulls I have to say that post is the most absurd, mind-numbing, flatulent crap I have read on here for some time. Kev the Ape: a challenger for your crown.

I know we are a Sussex team, but how many times has it been stated that we have to build within perameters of the City of Brighton and Hove.

These things are old-hat with repeated explanations but it does seem that some adled dunderheads cannot get it into their tiny minds that they will not come up with a better idea than the board BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A BETTER IDEA.

 

[3gulls]

3 Gulls I have to say that post is the most absurd, mind-numbing, flatulent crap I have read on here for some time. Kev the Ape: a challenger for your crown.

I know we are a Sussex team, but how many times has it been stated that we have to build within perameters of the City of Brighton and Hove.

These things are old-hat with repeated explanations but it does seem that some adled dunderheads cannot get it into their tiny minds that they will not come up with a better idea than the board BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A BETTER IDEA.

Ok smart arse, why does in need to be actually built in Brighton and Hove, if money were not an issue? We all know that you are incapable of indepandant thought, so you better ask insider for the answer you should give.

Fuc*ing sweaties!

 

[perseus]

Ah, so that's why we're in the shit - we have an inactive board of directors. Silly me, and there we were blaming the NIMBYs and Lewes District Council.

The main opponents to Falmer are the Sussex Downs Conservation Board (including the Countryside Agency and elected Councillors) and Lewes District Council because they are the planning authority for the bit of Falmer that falls under their jurisdiction (so they have to pay the bills).

The Sussex Downs Conservation Board have a 60% success rate in opposing development plans in AONBs.

They can hardly be called NIMBYs as they come from all over Sussex.

I do not if this 40% is good or bad odds? I think something like 75% (I have not looked this up) of new businesses go bust in the first four years, so it might be good odds?

 

[perseus]

Ok smart arse, why does in need to be actually built in Brighton and Hove, if money were not an issue? We all know that you are incapable of indepandant thought, so you better ask insider for the answer you should give.

Fuc*ing sweaties!

The stadium, or any major development creating employment, will have to be built in the regeneration zone from Newhaven to Littlehampton. The planning policies would not allow the development in Burgess Hill, Hassocks, Haywards Heath, Gatwick area, as far as I have been able to work out, because that area is already relatively well off compared to the coastal region.

I think this Government is quite keen on equality. It will not subsidise or encourage investment in well off places like Reading, and the Thames valley, Crawley and Gatwick areas when there are less well off areas like Hull, Cornwall, Hastings and a lesser extent Brighton and East Sussex.

This rather restricts the choice of places to put a stadium.

 

[Easy 10]

Ok smart arse, why does in need to be actually built in Brighton and Hove

Ummm...last I checked, we were called 'Brighton and Hove Albion' (unless I've missed something). It would be ideal if we could stay within the vicinity of the city and retain the name 'Brighton and Hove Albion'. That would be a bonus.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Ummm...last I checked, we were called 'Brighton and Hove Albion' (unless I've missed something). It would be ideal if we could stay within the vicinity of the city and retain the name 'Brighton and Hove Albion'. That would be a bonus.

There is also the matter of the FA Clause saying that the new stadium needs to be within a certain distance of Brighton Pavillion, but beyond that, why stick with just looking at Sussex, not many teams in Kent or maybe mid Hampshire, say Basingstoke area?

 

[Easy 10]

There is also the matter of the FA Clause saying that the new stadium needs to be within a certain distance of Brighton Pavillion, but beyond that, why stick with just looking at Sussex, not many teams in Kent or maybe mid Hampshire, say Basingstoke area?

You're right of course, and 3gulls incisive, intelligent posts on this thread have opened up a multitude of options which we'd barely considered. We need to be thinking "outside the box" here. There was another team which simply upped sticks and permanently moved away from its home town...the name escapes me now, but I'm sure that turned it out to be a ROARING success.

 

[Digweeds Trousers]

I'm not as sure as I was because I am a smart arse and a f***ing sweatie. I can't compete with that sort of put-down.

He must be right.

Boulogne is a bit of a dump. and propoerty is so much cheaper.

And of course the Froggie gov is likely to be a bit more action-orientated over there. We could tell them what to do and they would do it.]

Sorted 3 Gulls I've seen the light.

 

[The Large One]

Point 1 - yes on the cheap, because it is to be paid for largely by hand-outs. £60 million for a multi-function stadium is not a large sum of money in construction terms anyway.

Point 2 - please read more carefully next time! I said Sussex, not just Brighton. We are a Sussex team - Brighton is full of puffs with no interest in a man's game!

Point 3 - we can all live in hope of your gay lover DK fuc*ing off soon!

Point 4 - the Board's priority does not appear to be speed of build but maximising hand-outs and subsidies. IF we had a Board with real money, they would have found a site somewhere in Sussex where planning was not the type of problem that it is at Falmer, paid real cash for the land - and got our stadium built!

Finally, don't call my posts silly you fat patronising bastard!

Oh dear, another silly post.

We don't have a board with a lot of money. And there is no-one else to take over. And having a ton of money does not automatically get you the planning consent for a new stadium - just the means to pay for one when approval is given. Or had that passed you by?

I'd much rather be a fat, patronising bastard than living in a fantasyland. And thank you for your homophobic sentiments - that must have taken you on quite a long mental journey. Well done.

 

[The Large One]

The main opponents to Falmer are the Sussex Downs Conservation Board (including the Countryside Agency and elected Councillors) and Lewes District Council because they are the planning authority for the bit of Falmer that falls under their jurisdiction (so they have to pay the bills).

The Sussex Downs Conservation Board have a 60% success rate in opposing development plans in AONBs.

They can hardly be called NIMBYs as they come from all over Sussex.

I do not if this 40% is good or bad odds? I think something like 75% (I have not looked this up) of new businesses go bust in the first four years, so it might be good odds?

Shoosh now.

 

[3gulls]

There is also the matter of the FA Clause saying that the new stadium needs to be within a certain distance of Brighton Pavillion, but beyond that, why stick with just looking at Sussex, not many teams in Kent or maybe mid Hampshire, say Basingstoke area?

Oh he he how funny!

The FA clause that you refer to is something to do with a £500k bond i believe. That is only a financial constraint, and in the grand plan of things, a relatively small one if it had been called-in by the FA (which it may not have been if we had been able to show the now obvious fact that there is no suitable site in Brighton and Hove - that meets existing planning guidelines) but we were now playing in a real stadium in front of real crowds. As far as i can see anywhere in Sussex would be just fine, providing there were suitable transport links.

 

[3gulls]

Oh dear, another silly post.

We don't have a board with a lot of money. And there is no-one else to take over. And having a ton of money does not automatically get you the planning consent for a new stadium - just the means to pay for one when approval is given. Or had that passed you by?

I'd much rather be a fat, patronising bastard than living in a fantasyland. And thank you for your homophobic sentiments - that must have taken you on quite a long mental journey. Well done.

You just aint worth it!

 

[The Large One]

You just aint worth it!

Oh, believe me, I am. You just don't know the value of worth.

 

[e77]

Oh he he how funny!

The FA clause that you refer to is something to do with a £500k bond i believe. That is only a financial constraint, and in the grand plan of things, a relatively small one if it had been called-in by the FA (which it may not have been if we had been able to show the now obvious fact that there is no suitable site in Brighton and Hove - that meets existing planning guidelines) but we were now playing in a real stadium in front of real crowds. As far as i can see anywhere in Sussex would be just fine, providing there were suitable transport links.

So are you suggesting the club think 'sod it, get on the phone to Prescott and tell him to forget the whole Falmer thing' then spend somewhere in the region of £3 million and 7 years in the pursuit of another site ?

 

[sullyupthewing]

The City of Brighton and Hove the home of the Albion, and if ya don't like it 3gulls f*** OFF AND TRY SUPPORTING SOMEONE ELSE.

 

[Kneon Light]

The City of Brighton and Hove the home of the Albion, and if ya don't like it 3gulls f*** OFF AND TRY SUPPORTING SOMEONE ELSE.

I think he already does. He boasted about abusing other teams fans at the Fans Utd games and seems to know nothing about the situation we are in. If he/she is an albion fan it is certainly one fan we could do without.

 

[BensGrandad]

Does anybody know the figures of how many supporters actually live in Brighton and Hove or as the FA suggest within 9 miles of the Pavillion.

 

[The Large One]

Everyone OUGHT to. So that must be close to 300,000.

 

[bhaexpress]

It's so tedious these pointless snipes from so called fans who clearly don't have a clue what's going on.