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Yorkie said:It was. I'm so glad there were so many woolly mammoths around as they made good eating and the hairy skin was great for making warm clothes.
Cor, that sounds BRILLIO! Hooray for woolly mammoths!
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So all this global warning stuff is a crock of SHIT ?
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Cor, that sounds BRILLIO! Hooray for woolly mammoths!
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A Woolly Mammoth, yesterday
Mr Burns
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I'm off absolutely no doubt that Global warming is a natural event, which would happen, and has happened, whether man is around or not.
The only reason its a big issue now. is it just gives the powers that be another excuse to tax the f*** out of us!
The only reason its a big issue now. is it just gives the powers that be another excuse to tax the f*** out of us!
withdeanwombat
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Reckon I've got a maximum of twenty more seasons(football)so I really hope it warms up a lot more as my blood thins.
And after that....................?
Well,don't think it'll bother me too much.
And after that....................?
Well,don't think it'll bother me too much.
blue'n'white
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Climate change is currently the BIG thing though isn't it so all these experts get trotted out to pontificate on this and that and B.Liar makes us all change our light bulbs because it's fashionable. Frederick Forsyth made some very interesting points on Qyestion Time 2 or 3 weeks ago and said basically what Yorkie said up above - the Earth has gone through all these changes before and will do again. In Roman times they grew grapes up around Hadrians Wall, in the 1700s the Thames froze over. But now of course we've all got to beat our chests about it and apologise to our great grandchildren rather like we've just apologised for slavery which happened 200 odd years ago. Load of old tosh
blue'n'white
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And as far as I'm concerned IF climate change is real well if it makes for nice hot summers BRING IT ON 
Mr Burns
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blue'n'white said:Climate change is currently the BIG thing though isn't it so all these experts get trotted out to pontificate on this and that and B.Liar makes us all change our light bulbs because it's fashionable. Frederick Forsyth made some very interesting points on Qyestion Time 2 or 3 weeks ago and said basically what Yorkie said up above - the Earth has gone through all these changes before and will do again. In Roman times they grew grapes up around Hadrians Wall, in the 1700s the Thames froze over. But now of course we've all got to beat our chests about it and apologise to our great grandchildren rather like we've just apologised for slavery which happened 200 odd years ago. Load of old tosh
Although I would prefer the use of the word shit instead of tosh.
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dougdeep
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I wonder how much it costs to run all the recycling vehicles, only for a lot of the stuff to be dumped anyway. Carbon footprint my ass.
I reckon it's happening, but vaguely remember about 10 years back people making comments about the Amazon rain forest being cut down and what an effect it would have on the environment. I haven't heard anything recently though.
Even if Global warming isn't happening, cutting down on Emissions might help Azthma sufferer's and prevent deaths in City's from Smog polution. So can't be all that bad.
Even if Global warming isn't happening, cutting down on Emissions might help Azthma sufferer's and prevent deaths in City's from Smog polution. So can't be all that bad.
William Chops
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Rougvie, I sense your post is a wind up but surely even the most uneducated person can realise that continually tapping away at unsustainable sources, creating undisposable waste and polluting the planet is not the way forward for a modern civilised society morally or physically...even if it doesnt contribute to global warming.
Get yourself some education and then come back to the table.
Get yourself some education and then come back to the table.
NMH
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Oh come on now people, get 'with it' - that there is 'global warming' is NOT something in any doubt!
IT IS A FACT.
The questions are, are WE causing it, or is it simply a season in Earth's existence?
If man were not here at all, would it be happening anyway?
Something caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, and apparently fairly quickly - but a few did survive and continue to walk the earth (we just don't see them as dinosaurs because that genre covers the extinct). Rhinosaurus elephant giraffe and hippopotamus, ostrich and emu, caelacanth and giant squid, giant tortoise and armadillo, whatever survived from some ancient holocaust in pre-history of man.
That era might have ended with the ice age, a great flood, an atmospheric trauma, who knows?
Mankind are particularly sensitive - perhaps now due to the fact that we have moulded our world to suit us, rather than adapt to suit it. Great, so we need a fire to keep from dying of exposure in winter. We need shelter to keep from the sun, we make clothes to wear and medicines that ward off bacteria. I would think that we, as a species, will be one of the first to be affected by a planetary change.
What does it matter to the universe if we disappear? Not a whit. Who would it matter to? There wouldn't be anyone, and animals that remained would barely notice after taking care of their own survival.
Planets have disappeared before and will always. Species on our unique planet will also go extinct - after millions of years of existence, many adaptations and evolutionary changes, and a whole species then disappears, never to be re-created! We shrug, and maybe feel a slight pang of remorse - (especially if we realise it was man that shot and ate the last pair).
Look, whether it is a slight change (that will still greatly effect The Earth), or a catastrophic one (that will wipe out most of life in our atmosphere maybe leaving the ocean life), the fact remains and we have noticed it without scientists having to tell us! It's not this year, it has been happening over several - and this year was a particularly outstanding one. It probably does NOT indicate a short decade of slight change, it could keep going, and be a rollercoaster of temperate change, culminating in an atmosphere so rapidly heating that we all die within a generation.
If man can reverse such a catastrophe is extremely doubtful. Helping it to continue would really be stupid though wouldn't it? If we think it'll go away regardless of how we burn fuel and test nukes - can we afford to be wrong?
The next fact is - we people aren't going to all suddenly start using bicycles instead of cars. We won't stop using electricity or fighting wars.
Roll on the holocaust? Maybe, but we'll think about it tomorrow, or the next day, or the next day, or the last day.
IT IS A FACT.
The questions are, are WE causing it, or is it simply a season in Earth's existence?
If man were not here at all, would it be happening anyway?
Something caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, and apparently fairly quickly - but a few did survive and continue to walk the earth (we just don't see them as dinosaurs because that genre covers the extinct). Rhinosaurus elephant giraffe and hippopotamus, ostrich and emu, caelacanth and giant squid, giant tortoise and armadillo, whatever survived from some ancient holocaust in pre-history of man.
That era might have ended with the ice age, a great flood, an atmospheric trauma, who knows?
Mankind are particularly sensitive - perhaps now due to the fact that we have moulded our world to suit us, rather than adapt to suit it. Great, so we need a fire to keep from dying of exposure in winter. We need shelter to keep from the sun, we make clothes to wear and medicines that ward off bacteria. I would think that we, as a species, will be one of the first to be affected by a planetary change.
What does it matter to the universe if we disappear? Not a whit. Who would it matter to? There wouldn't be anyone, and animals that remained would barely notice after taking care of their own survival.
Planets have disappeared before and will always. Species on our unique planet will also go extinct - after millions of years of existence, many adaptations and evolutionary changes, and a whole species then disappears, never to be re-created! We shrug, and maybe feel a slight pang of remorse - (especially if we realise it was man that shot and ate the last pair).
Look, whether it is a slight change (that will still greatly effect The Earth), or a catastrophic one (that will wipe out most of life in our atmosphere maybe leaving the ocean life), the fact remains and we have noticed it without scientists having to tell us! It's not this year, it has been happening over several - and this year was a particularly outstanding one. It probably does NOT indicate a short decade of slight change, it could keep going, and be a rollercoaster of temperate change, culminating in an atmosphere so rapidly heating that we all die within a generation.
If man can reverse such a catastrophe is extremely doubtful. Helping it to continue would really be stupid though wouldn't it? If we think it'll go away regardless of how we burn fuel and test nukes - can we afford to be wrong?
The next fact is - we people aren't going to all suddenly start using bicycles instead of cars. We won't stop using electricity or fighting wars.
Roll on the holocaust? Maybe, but we'll think about it tomorrow, or the next day, or the next day, or the last day.
NMH
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....I still blame Mcghee.
OzMike
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According to the scientific buffs, on average the earth experiences a mass extinction about every 75 million years.
Therefore another one is due or if you want to be precise, 'over due'
So for the love of Mike
We must exhaust all of the worlds resources while we still can!
Waiting till tomorrow may be too late!
Think of all the luxury's which will be lost, never to be used again, so buy a big car, burn lots of things, use up all the hair spray, crank that stat. up in the cold.
Because let's face it , when the roaches and rats survive it will be wasted on them
Therefore another one is due or if you want to be precise, 'over due'
So for the love of Mike
We must exhaust all of the worlds resources while we still can!
Waiting till tomorrow may be too late!
Think of all the luxury's which will be lost, never to be used again, so buy a big car, burn lots of things, use up all the hair spray, crank that stat. up in the cold.
Because let's face it , when the roaches and rats survive it will be wasted on them
ali jenkins
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Im all for a bit of Global Warming if it means an end to cold winters and loads of more hot summer days in the beer garden on a nice little pub somewhere!!!
Bring it on i say!
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Bring it on i say!
:mushy: dougdeep
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William Chops said:
Knob!
NMH
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William Chops said:
It wouldn't be the way forward for a modern civilised society, but then I have to ask where such a society is? The current human race can't be called that, and perhaps a small percentage of the World displays slightest signs of a claim to the title!
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readingstockport said:
even if they are, what does that mean? does it mean that their alternative interpretation of the data (the same data used by the CO2 lobby) is inhierently wrong? atttack their evidence and argument, not who pays them. if nothing else, that program demands that the data needs reanalysing because the really inconvienent truth is that we've only been hearing one side.
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Southover Street Seagull
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Rougvie said:
Never saw the programme and it's true what you say that there are two sides to every story. Even if the accelerated global warming isn't down to mankind, is there any problem with being energy efficient?
We don't have endless natural resources so why waste them? If we can think of alternative energy sources that stop pollution and wasting natural resources then surely that must be a good thing regardless that accelerated global warming is man made or not?
William Chops
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dougdeep said:
I dont even have to lay traps to get the uneducated to manifest themselves do I?