Slade Fav? Or Argus Bull

[fire&skill]

As stated above, my worry is not Russell Slade but that he will almost certainly be working with the same backroom staff as Adams. I think that the backroom staff were the problem and we need a clear out.

I don't think Slade'll be putting up with too much 'advice' from his backroom staff, whoever they are. He seems like the sort of chap who likes to call the shots.

Mickey, on the other hand, sounded like a broken man in some of those later interviews - especially when he did a 'Keegan' over Hereford not being Leeds etc.

 

[Mackenzie]

Out of all the candidates that are left he's probably my favourite. I'd like to know why he was sacked from Yeovil though as, like Wilkins, it wasn't because of bad results.

At least he's not on a downward slope like Pardew, a serial failure like Holloway or a possible one-hit wonder like Boothroyd.

I agree with what you have written there, although Boothroyd may still have more to give in the future.

 

[Bwian]

Its more a question of having anyone who will take the job. We really are the bottom of the pile now , a complete mess.

Don't be so ridiculous. Nothing like a piece of early morning melodrama...What makes you think "We really are the bottom of the pile now"? Because it has taken 12 days so far to find the right man for the job?

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Out of all the candidates that are left he's probably my favourite. I'd like to know why he was sacked from Yeovil though as, like Wilkins, it wasn't because of bad results.

At least he's not on a downward slope like Pardew, a serial failure like Holloway or a possible one-hit wonder like Boothroyd.

I don't get this anti Pardew stuff. He did an excellent job at Reading. He got West Ham up and within a whisker of beating Liverpool in the Cup Final before being sacked amid their long running take over saga. Ok, he was unsuccessful at Charlton but anyone going there after Curbishley's dynasty may have struggled. So one miss doesn't equate to a downward slope as you suggest. He'd be a good choice for us and far better than Slade.

 

[Forster's Armband]

I don't get this anti Pardew stuff. He did an excellent job at Reading. He got West Ham up and within a whisker of beating Liverpool in the Cup Final before being sacked amid their long running take over saga. Ok, he was unsuccessful at Charlton but anyone going there after Curbishley's dynasty may have struggled. So one miss doesn't equate to a downward slope as you suggest. He'd be a good choice for us and far better than Slade.

Totally agree! He took over at Charlton when they were a total mess having gone through two managers in the space of a few months, this season they have no money and are a difficult task for anyone.

 

[Lush]

What is the problem with Russell Slade? Ok he isn't a household name, but although Tony Adams, Bryan Robson, etc are, they are all shite managers. There is no guarantee that Ince will do any better. Pardew is a man on the way down.

If you look at Slades record it stands up. Particularly in getting teams out of trouble and getting results. It may not be pretty, the style of play maybe just to get results. But hey, look at the table its results we need.

Maybe Slade isn't the type of manager who will do well in the Championship, but we are a long long way from that.

I say give Slade the job until the end of the season. Get results, stay in this league, steady the ship and then lets have a look again in the summer.

Totally agree. I reckon Booker will go immediately but Dean White will probably stay at least until we see what a more permanent manager has to say.

 

[severnside gull]

Just trying to get a handle on his status via earlier threads and the Yeovil forum. Only possible issue seems to be that he may need to do a deal with his former employers around paying up his contract. Doubt he would take a discounted offer in exchange for a very short term contract here so the suggestion that we would need to give him 18 months (or more appropriately x amount which equates to 18 months' salary) seems logical.


That said, would anyone be surprised if there were another twist before an appointment is made? Convinced it will be in time for Saturday though.

 

[jonesie]

Interesting bit saying the Club WILL appoint someone in time for Sat.

Lets hope the club dont make an appointment for appointments sake to save egg on face, there's enough there already!

 

[Brovion]

I don't get this anti Pardew stuff. He did an excellent job at Reading. He got West Ham up and within a whisker of beating Liverpool in the Cup Final before being sacked amid their long running take over saga. Ok, he was unsuccessful at Charlton but anyone going there after Curbishley's dynasty may have struggled. So one miss doesn't equate to a downward slope as you suggest. He'd be a good choice for us and far better than Slade.

Yup they're valid points and I wouldn't dismiss his achievements. It's just that, rightly or wrongly and despite what he's done he's now seen as having 'failed' (i.e. been sacked) in his last two jobs. West Ham fans aren't that fond of him and Charlton fans (if my mate, a Charlton STH can be believed) hate his guts. How much of that transmits to the players? If he came here would they remember his achievements (and his move to West Ham cost us Coppell!) or would they think he was yesterday's man? After all Adams had enjoyed some success in his career, but it was painfully obvious quite early on this season that his best days were behind him.

Slade on the other hand could (and I stress 'could') turn out to be the Next Big Thing. He has no failures on his CV - although I accept his achievements are extremely modest when compared to Pardew's.

So a man who potentially is Yesterday's Man or a man who might be The Next Big Thing? Either one could be a risk, I'm in favour of Slade but I accept that Pardew is not, well, quite in the Micky Adams 'Busted Flush' league.

 

[Smythe]

What is the problem with Russell Slade? Ok he isn't a household name, but although Tony Adams, Bryan Robson, etc are, they are all shite managers. There is no guarantee that Ince will do any better. Pardew is a man on the way down.

If you look at Slades record it stands up. Particularly in getting teams out of trouble and getting results. It may not be pretty, the style of play maybe just to get results. But hey, look at the table its results we need.

Maybe Slade isn't the type of manager who will do well in the Championship, but we are a long long way from that.

I say give Slade the job until the end of the season. Get results, stay in this league, steady the ship and then lets have a look again in the summer.

I agree, there is no guarantee that a household name will do well for us, Ok he may not have been tested in the championship but thats not to say he wouldnt do ok there, and if people havnt noticed were quite a way from the championship yet.
I dont know why but i got a feeling that if it is Slade it could turn out to be like Micky's first spell with us.......a lot of people seem to be writing him off already but i think he may surprise a few people.

 

[fire&skill]

I don't get this anti Pardew stuff. He did an excellent job at Reading. He got West Ham up and within a whisker of beating Liverpool in the Cup Final before being sacked amid their long running take over saga. Ok, he was unsuccessful at Charlton but anyone going there after Curbishley's dynasty may have struggled. So one miss doesn't equate to a downward slope as you suggest. He'd be a good choice for us and far better than Slade.

Like it

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Yup they're valid points and I wouldn't dismiss his achievements. It's just that, rightly or wrongly and despite what he's done he's now seen as having 'failed' (i.e. been sacked) in his last two jobs. West Ham fans aren't that fond of him and Charlton fans (if my mate, a Charlton STH can be believed) hate his guts. How much of that transmits to the players? If he came here would they remember his achievements (and his move to West Ham cost us Coppell!) or would they think he was yesterday's man? After all Adams had enjoyed some success in his career, but it was painfully obvious quite early on this season that his best days were behind him.

Slade on the other hand could (and I stress 'could') turn out to be the Next Big Thing. He has no failures on his CV - although I accept his achievements are extremely modest when compared to Pardew's.

So a man who potentially is Yesterday's Man or a man who might be The Next Big Thing? Either one could be a risk, I'm in favour of Slade but I accept that Pardew is not, well, quite in the Micky Adams 'Busted Flush' league.

Likewise on vaild points. My worry about Slade is that he represents the " old school" of management which is unthoughtful and typifed by a " blood and thunder" approach. It's all about aggression & playing the long ball rather than the things I'd like to see us do ..better retention and passing of the ball. We've just had the former approach under Adams and look where its got us? It's no longer good enough. I would worry that the same might be repeated under Slade but accept also that we don't know, it might not. I suppose in the end it all comes to results. Whoever the manager is...Pardew, Slade or someone else, that's what they'll be judged on. We'll know soon enough.

 

[Brovion]

Likewise on vaild points. My worry about Slade is that he represents the " old school" of management which is unthoughtful and typifed by a " blood and thunder" approach. It's all about aggression & playing the long ball rather than the things I'd like to see us do ..better retention and passing of the ball. We've just had the former approach under Adams and look where its got us? It's no longer good enough. I would worry that the same might be repeated under Slade but accept also that we don't know, it might not. I suppose in the end it all comes to results. Whoever the manager is...Pardew, Slade or someone else, that's what they'll be judged on. We'll know soon enough.

Yeah, I too don't want another long ball, hoof and hope, POMO merchant. I've changed my mind. Pardew it is!

 

[Austrian Gull]

Likewise on vaild points. My worry about Slade is that he represents the " old school" of management which is unthoughtful and typifed by a " blood and thunder" approach. It's all about aggression & playing the long ball rather than the things I'd like to see us do ..better retention and passing of the ball. We've just had the former approach under Adams and look where its got us? It's no longer good enough. I would worry that the same might be repeated under Slade but accept also that we don't know, it might not. I suppose in the end it all comes to results. Whoever the manager is...Pardew, Slade or someone else, that's what they'll be judged on. We'll know soon enough.

I don't think the fans will be too bothered with the style of football if it gets results. Adams first time round wasn't total football by any means but we had a team who gave 100% complemented by a special player in Zamora. Certainly in the short-term, the fans won't be bothered about style but about results.

Most Brighton fans are realistic enough to want total effort above all - if they want to watch stepovers and flowing football, there's always TV!

By the way, did Yeovil really play hoofball under Slade?

 

[pork pie]

I don't think the fans will be too bothered with the style of football if it gets results. Adams first time round wasn't total football by any means but we had a team who gave 100% complemented by a special player in Zamora. Certainly in the short-term, the fans won't be bothered about style but about results.

Most Brighton fans are realistic enough to want total effort above all - if they want to watch stepovers and flowing football, there's always TV!

By the way, did Yeovil really play hoofball under Slade?

I am very sorry, but I think that is crap! Yes, we do want effort, but we also want good football. Bobby Zamora was an outstanding player who was a joy to watch, other players like Paul Brooker and Nathan Jones added some flair as well.

Obviously, the rest of this season is about staying up, but in the longer term the new Manager needs to produce entertaining football. How else will we fill Falmer, or even Withdean?

 

[Austrian Gull]

I am very sorry, but I think that is crap! Yes, we do want effort, but we also want good football. Bobby Zamora was an outstanding player who was a joy to watch, other players like Paul Brooker and Nathan Jones added some flair as well.

Obviously, the rest of this season is about staying up, but in the longer term the new Manager needs to produce entertaining football. How else will we fill Falmer, or even Withdean?

Fair enough but I was really meaning short-term. I'd certainly agree that total effort won't be enough for Falmer. Adams' first team did have some flair players as you mentioned but they weren't afraid to mix it up as well.

However, last Tuesday night, the crowd got behind the team because they could see they were giving everything and clapped them off in spite of what was a mediocre result.

 

[Trigger]

Not very inspiring but we can't go on much longer with White, Booker and Knight picking the team... We need a proper manager and Slade would fit the bill and I have no doubts he could keep us up despite him not being my choice.

 

[crodonilson]

:yahoo:

 

[BensGrandad]

I am concerned that it is getting more likely to be White and Booker with Dk ´overseeing´ everything and playing at being a manager. What right mess the Blooms have got us into

 

[Tony Le Mesmer]

A name that I'm sure will get the crowds flocking back to the Withdean.