As everyone else who asks this question, you are wrong. I am still entitled to vote for the next 10 years at least, my pension will be paid from the UK and I am still a British citizen, gives me a reason to hold an opinion don't ya think?
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[News] Sky Reporting Corbyn paid to spy on Britain
- Thread starter Chicken Run
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As everyone else who asks this question, you are wrong. I am still entitled to vote for the next 10 years at least, my pension will be paid from the UK and I am still a British citizen, gives me a reason to hold an opinion don't ya think?
Whoosh.
Have a look back at Alf's post.
If you have a voice from Melbourne then I think the son of Irish parents with a British family does too.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
I'm not sure Bowden's politics were particularly dislikeable, he was never an idealogue and always considered the human element. He often teamed up with Frank Field in debates on benefits and social issues, much to the annoyance of the Thatcher Government.
Regards Caroline Lucas, she does have a big team behind her but it would count for nothing if she wasn't sincere in what she does. She continues to cement her position as the local MP in the town despite B&H having the biggest local Labour Party in the country. We've seen how much trouble they cause Peter Kyle but they've never laid even a single blow on her - and that's with a much bigger machine behind them than anything the Greens can call upon, with local Momentum activists itching for a fight and the shameful debacle of the recent Green-run Council to use as ammunition against her.
Flex Your Head
Well-known member
And yet none of you seem to know know that his name is actually Andrew Bowden
And yet none of you seem to know know that his name is actually Andrew Bowden
*applauds*
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
And yet none of you seem to know know that his name is actually Andrew Bowden
D'oh! Sorry, I've been having an email exchange with a Tony Bowden today and think my brain is frazzled!
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,876
I'm not sure what the newspapers think will be gained.
This may have worked in the 80s but all it really achieves it completely polarising the electorate.
Some will think "I knew it all along, they started with infiltrating the Post Office in 1970s and I've never licked a stamp since my local postie knocked off a Bulgarian defector with his umbrella on that bridge."
Others will embrace that horrible phrase "mainstream media" whilst subscribing to (and completely misinterpreting) an anarchy blog run by Canadian right wing survivalists who are convinced the Iraq War was started by David Ickes's cousin Lee Harvey Oswald.
Where is the more believable reason that Corbyn got accidentally shit faced at the local Islington CAMRA meeting, stumbled into a Russian wedding reception in the back room (whilst looking for the toilet) and work up in the bath of the Czech chauffeur the next morning thinking "what the hell did I say last night" ?
This may have worked in the 80s but all it really achieves it completely polarising the electorate.
Some will think "I knew it all along, they started with infiltrating the Post Office in 1970s and I've never licked a stamp since my local postie knocked off a Bulgarian defector with his umbrella on that bridge."
Others will embrace that horrible phrase "mainstream media" whilst subscribing to (and completely misinterpreting) an anarchy blog run by Canadian right wing survivalists who are convinced the Iraq War was started by David Ickes's cousin Lee Harvey Oswald.
Where is the more believable reason that Corbyn got accidentally shit faced at the local Islington CAMRA meeting, stumbled into a Russian wedding reception in the back room (whilst looking for the toilet) and work up in the bath of the Czech chauffeur the next morning thinking "what the hell did I say last night" ?
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And that has what to do with me?
Sirnormangall
Well-known member
- Sep 21, 2017
- 3,178
See the cover of latest edition of Private Eye - a classic.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Looks like this is going to cost the swivel eyed loonies a few quid or admit it was a load of old balls
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And Andrew Neill puts the boot into another swivel eyed head BREXIT head banger
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And Andrew Neill puts the boot into another swivel eyed head BREXIT head banger
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Bowden was an excellent local MP. If only there were more Tories like him ...
Brighton Mod
Its All Too Beautiful
Clearly nothing wrong with what he was doing in 1977 touring Czechoslovakia and East Germany on a motorbike, unseen, unheard and unrecognised, just how all informants like to be. Didn't realise these were holiday destinations in 1977, prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall. In the same way that you may doubt the Mail/Sun/Telegraph others may doubt the editorial of the Guardian. Corbyn is sailing very close to the wind, there will be more on him.
daveinprague
New member
Desperate.
There were holidays in the Tatra mountains advertised in many UK newspapers.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I know a few people, including my brother, who visited Czechoslovakia and East Germany prior to 1989 - in the former you had to report to a police station every day. In the latter as a foreigner you had to have vouchers allowing your accommodation for each night at designated hotels as a foreigner and could only buy fuel from certain places too. Not sure if The Stasi or StB had files on my brother, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't spying for them.
Brighton Mod
Its All Too Beautiful
All that you have stated would be perfect for an informant, reporting to police stations and refuelling at nominated locations, both excellent places to debrief and exchange information, all under the control of the handler.
daveinprague
New member
All you have stated is crap that every Czech intelligence agency has denied, about Corbyn, and the current Czech Prime Minister Babis.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I see. Interesting. My brother and his mates went to quite a few places in Eastern Europe in 1987, 1988 and 1989, as well as all the other other tourists and travellers that were out there at the same time. I wonder if they were secretly involved in and being debriefed on The Mandela 70th birthday concert and The Czechoslovakian Goverment's attempt to overthrow the apartheid regime on behalf of their socialist brothers and sisters in The ANC as well as Corbyn?
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seagulls4ever
New member
- Oct 2, 2003
- 4,338
I cannot express how ridiculous this whole 'scandal' is. I cannot believe the depths the right wing press and certain Tories are sinking to to try and discredit Corbyn. It's absolutely hilarious.
daveinprague
New member
Shows fear
Brighton Mod
Its All Too Beautiful
I have not mentioned the name of Corbyn in this post, only you have. I only state that the environment of the reporting process would lend itself well to the environment that existed in both Czechoslovakia and East Germany at that time. As i'm sure was the case of many informants and spies.
In the case of the allegations made against Jeremy Corbyn, intelligence is gleened at all levels both high and low, access to the House of Commons and meeting a diplomat later expelled in that place is not a clever act and the admission that he handed a this diplomat a newspaper cutting is not sensible. What was on the cutting, microdots, indelible ink or whatever may have been passable prior to the high tech computer age in which we live.
Unlike your comments, what I have highlighted above has been admited and confirmed and yes, by the Guardian.