[Albion] Sky / bt on concourse tvs

[Easy 10]

Weird that the club invested in dozens of new TV's for the concourses in the summer (I saw the stacks of empty boxes piled up outside) only to use them as glorified signage.

"Please return to your seats"

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Weird that the club invested in dozens of new TV's for the concourses in the summer (I saw the stacks of empty boxes piled up outside) only to use them as glorified signage.

"Please return to your seats"

I'm guessing that the club are confident they will get some use for watching actual football eventually.

 

[Stuart Munday]

It was my first game back Saturday and I was thinking the same thing, had a ticket for East Upper where you would assume fans might be more compliant than in the North but place was rammed and only a couple of masks in sight.

I was right on the halfway line, fantastic view and can get the atmosphere from both sets of fans not too sure about the layout inside, 2 catering outlets with queues to the far wall but both gents toilets at far ends of the stand so you have to battle through the queue to get there. With that and the trains there is no way to avoid Covid you might as well keep the televisions on especially when the weather was as bad as it was.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Classic Barber. More interested in the Prawn Sandwich brigade than the casual fan. Deeper pockets to squeeze.

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I've seen some bullshit reasons to have a go at Paul Barber in the past, but 'He doesn't let me watch football on the TV' is up there with the best/worst of them

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

I've seen some bullshit reasons to have a go at Paul Barber in the past, but 'He doesn't let me watch football on the TV' is up there with the best/worst of them

Crazy in the extreme, l agree. I can fully understand why the club want fans off the stuffy confined concourse, (with all it's possible Covid hazards), and out into the fresh air and into their seats as quickly as possible.

I also think that mask wearing should be made mandatory by the club, whilst fans are on the concourse, at least as a sign of respect for the more vulnerable amongst us. There was barely a mask to be seen on Saturday, so selfish in my opinion.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Crazy in the extreme, l agree. I can fully understand why the club want fans off the stuffy confined concourse, (with all it's possible Covid hazards), and out into the fresh air and into their seats as quickly as possible.

I also think that mask wearing should be made mandatory by the club, whilst fans are on the concourse, at least as a sign of respect for the more vulnerable amongst us. There was barely a mask to be seen on Saturday, so selfish in my opinion.

I think it's been said on other threads that this is unenforceable.

But yes, you obviously can't rely on people to bear a minor inconvenience for the public good

 

[studio150]

What did the club expect from Saturday, pouring down with rain, which with the wind was probably soaking at least the first 10 rows or so. Don't think many would have taken their food and drink to their seat to be soaked for an hour before the game started.
Different if the sun is out (and don't want a beer) and the lunchtime game is on the big screens.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Dicks Bar was very busy. Big tv's on. Great atmosphere. Nice and warm. Not a mask in sight other than the bar staff.

 

[Dave the hatosaurus]

Dicks Bar was very busy. Big tv's on. Great atmosphere. Nice and warm. Not a mask in sight other than the bar staff.

Many thanks for the report , definitely a place to avoid then .

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The club want to be seen to be doing the right thing.

The club don't just WANT to be seen to be doing the right things(s).

They literally HAVE to be seen to be doing the right thing(s).

And frankly, it isn't just about being seen to do so, is it? The guidance they've put in place is proportionate and reasonable, and if adhered to genuinely would (however slightly) lower the risk of covid transmission at the game. The fact that barely anyone can be ****ed to follow any of that guidance is on 'us' not them.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Crazy in the extreme, l agree. I can fully understand why the club want fans off the stuffy confined concourse, (with all it's possible Covid hazards), and out into the fresh air and into their seats as quickly as possible.

I also think that mask wearing should be made mandatory by the club, whilst fans are on the concourse, at least as a sign of respect for the more vulnerable amongst us. There was barely a mask to be seen on Saturday, so selfish in my opinion.

See below. Hans is right, it is on us. Making it mandatory will likely drive people off the concourses because you can't eat or drink with a mask on. That's literally the current "get out". No food or drink would make pubs in town who won't have mandatory mask policies busier and stack up the later trains to the point where it would either be dangerous or people would miss kick off. The revenue reduction would be incredible and people like Piglets and Harvey's would have a very difficult conversation with PB.

The club don't just WANT to be seen to be doing the right things(s).

They literally HAVE to be seen to be doing the right thing(s).

And frankly, it isn't just about being seen to do so, is it? The guidance they've put in place is proportionate and reasonable, and if adhered to genuinely would (however slightly) lower the risk of covid transmission at the game. The fact that barely anyone can be ****ed to follow any of that guidance is on 'us' not them.

Yup.

 

[A1X]

Not sure how long the pretence will last but the club has to be seen to have covid safe protocols even if many ignore them.

I'd imagine the club are (probably rightly) terrified of a local spike being traced back to them, and the PL is for it to happen at any of 20 places up and down the country. Therefore it's in everyone's interests to keep up the pretence for as long as is needed by the pandemic at large. Well, apart from the fans, but since when did we count?

 

[Guinness Boy]

I'd imagine the club are (probably rightly) terrified of a local spike being traced back to them, and the PL is for it to happen at any of 20 places up and down the country. Therefore it's in everyone's interests to keep up the pretence for as long as is needed by the pandemic at large. Well, apart from the fans, but since when did we count?

Staying open to fans is undoubtedly the number one concern in terms of economic factors for the club and PL, and in terms of the product (football being so much better with fans present).

The safety of those fans is then always the club's number one priority when they are present, of that I have never had any doubt.

Whether 'spikes' can be traced in that way is becoming somewhat moot. Everything is getting "back to normal". I commuted to London last week on Thursday. The train was back to normal levels of busy-ness with perhaps only 70% wearing a mask. Tube was rammed with only about 80% despite it being mandatory on the tube. I went to a WeWork that had people on every floor for the first time and three of us went for a pint in a West End pub afterwards. Then, on Friday, the wife and I went out for a meal with another couple in town. On Saturday I went shopping in the morning, met my mates and we went off to the game by car and then train.

I am double vaxxed and test regularly with my school age kids but I could have picked up Covid in any one of those situations and not known about it by the time I entered the ground. Technically at that point, is the club the source of any outbreak resulting from me, is it the train, tube, pub or restaurant

Plus since the "pingdemic" people have turned the T&T app off.

As society opens up and super spreader events become common place, shutting down one particular activity is going to take a lot of balls and would likely be legally challenged.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

I think it's been said on other threads that this is unenforceable.

But yes, you obviously can't rely on people to bear a minor inconvenience for the public good

Well difficult to enforce possibly yes. What really surprised me though, was the fact that almost nobody at all was wearing one. As l've said in other posts that, for me at least, that shows a lack of respect for others.

People are very quick to forget all those that have suffered in these last eighteen months or so. Is wearing a mask whilst on the concourse really that much of an inconvenience?

 

[bhanutz]

Well difficult to enforce possibly yes. What really surprised me though, was the fact that almost nobody at all was wearing one. As l've said in other posts that, for me at least, that shows a lack of respect for others.

People are very quick to forget all those that have suffered in these last eighteen months or so. Is wearing a mask whilst on the concourse really that much of an inconvenience?

Please don't forget, some of us are exempt.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

See below. Hans is right, it is on us. Making it mandatory will likely drive people off the concourses because you can't eat or drink with a mask on. That's literally the current "get out". No food or drink would make pubs in town who won't have mandatory mask policies busier and stack up the later trains to the point where it would either be dangerous or people would miss kick off. The revenue reduction would be incredible and people like Piglets and Harvey's would have a very difficult conversation with PB.

Well "leave it to the people" and nothing will ever change. Obviously people don't wear a mask whilst in their seats so it's quite ok to eat and/or drink there, all except alcohol of course. Ban alcohol from stadia and a sizeable minority may simply decide to stop coming to football, and as you say hitting the catering companies, and ultimately football clubs hard in the pocket.

I really don't know what the answer is.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Please don't forget, some of us are exempt.

Of course, but at the same time the exempt are very much in the minority.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Many thanks for the report , definitely a place to avoid then .

Personal choice. I had a great time in there after the Everton game.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Well "leave it to the people" and nothing will ever change. Obviously people don't wear a mask whilst in their seats so it's quite ok to eat and/or drink there, all except alcohol of course. Ban alcohol from stadia and a sizeable minority may simply decide to stop coming to football, and as you say hitting the catering companies, and ultimately football clubs hard in the pocket.

I really don't know what the answer is.

Same dilemma on the trains. At Liverpool St the other day people were coming off overground trains with no mask on, having not complied with measures that were advisory but not mandatory and being met by TFL stewards at the Underground part who were asking them to put a mask on and buy one from the station Boots (no mask needed to enter) if they didn't have one. Since the tube trains are one-man operations they were then being removed again when they were most needed, in the carriage.

The majority of folk seem happy with this and, ultimately, that means more risk for anyone who is extremely vulnerable.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Same dilemma on the trains. At Liverpool St the other day people were coming off overground trains with no mask on, having not complied with measures that were advisory but not mandatory and being met by TFL stewards at the Underground part who were asking them to put a mask on and buy one from the station Boots (no mask needed to enter) if they didn't have one. Since the tube trains are one-man operations they were then being removed again when they were most needed, in the carriage.

The majority of folk seem happy with this and, ultimately, that means more risk for anyone who is extremely vulnerable.

Indeed, what a selfish species we homo sapiens are.

As l say, there is no answer.