Weststander
Well-known member
They are still prevalent, the numbers are steadily growing, but a pin prick on our housing needs.
https://nacsba.org.uk/news/single-dwelling-data-shows-self-build-numbers-growing/
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[Politics] Sir Keir Starmer’s route to Number 10
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They are still prevalent, the numbers are steadily growing, but a pin prick on our housing needs.
https://nacsba.org.uk/news/single-dwelling-data-shows-self-build-numbers-growing/
Jolly Red Giant
Well-known member
- Jul 11, 2015
- 2,615
Most social and affordable housing in Ireland is now built by charities - and I have a major problem with this as it let's the government and the local councils off the hook.
Local councils in Ireland are sitting on large banks of land zoned for housing but won't build social and affordable housing - instead they flog them at knockdown prices to private developers.
Housing needs should be provided by local councils through a state operated construction company - it would save significantly on building costs, it would ensure proper employment for building workers (not bogus so-called self-employment contracts), and it would ensure that the land is properly developed with appropriate infrastructure, utilities and services in place.
- Aug 7, 2003
- 8,090
One of the last ones that I can recall, locally, was a row of terraced houses, I think in Hangleton Lane on the hill leading to Mile Oak.
My guess is that all potential building land is being identified by developers and added to their land banks paying prices out of the reach of self build groups.
We had an enquiry letter a couple of months ago from a company identifying our property and those of our three neighbours as potential development land. They employ people to look at aerial photos to find new development sites.
- Aug 7, 2003
- 8,090
They seem to be single dwellings whereas I was referring to multi unit self builds of, say, 10 - 15 houses which would be built for self occupation.
Weststander
Well-known member
You’re right. Kevin McCloud promoted a scheme you touch on, part televised. I think it went bust in the end.
I know that in general there’s a lack of land due to everyone fighting planning near them. Partly because of that, it literally costs multi £10,000’s per unit to obtain planning permission with no guarantee of success. Architects, 15 different consultants. This was a sea change this millennium, the same reason why vast numbers of smaller house builders left the game. Effectively the requirements for outline planning permission now have to meet the old requirements for full planning permission.
I wonder if single unit self builds are back garden filling or after demolishing a shack.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
https://news.sky.com/story/no-wealt...shadow-chancellor-rachel-reeves-says-12949110
Won't keep the Momentum bods happy at all.
Won't keep the Momentum bods happy at all.
Indeed but these sorts of policies should contribute to a defeat for the Tories that will be so catastrophic, it’ll decapitate them in to two parliamentary parties.
The head part with be the current incarnation, perhaps some decent Tories will manage to gain control but with less than 50 seats, power will be difficult to come by for a couple of decades.
The brainless section controlled by the arsehole instead, which no doubt you will support, will be this lot:
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Yeah but, no but...whataboutery Grade 1.Indeed but these sorts of policies should contribute to a defeat for the Tories that will be so catastrophic, it’ll decapitate them in to two parliamentary parties.
The head part with be the current incarnation, perhaps some decent Tories will manage to gain control but with less than 50 seats, power will be difficult to come by for a couple of decades.
The brainless section controlled by the arsehole instead, which no doubt you will support, will be this lot:
Johnson as leader, Truss as shadow chancellor, Braverman as shadow Home Secretary and your favour pin up, Dories as shadow health secretary. You’ll be on your knees for them won’t you!
This is a Starmer thread, and my point was that the Momentum bods aren't happy with this wealth love-in.
Wokeworrier
Active member
Dissapointing news for those hoping for radical change at the next GE ... no significant attempts to redistribute wealth, no reversal of Brexit, stay outside the customs union and single market ... Vote Labour for more of the same?
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
My thoughts exactly.Dissapointing news for those hoping for radical change at the next GE ... no significant attempts to redistribute wealth, no reversal of Brexit, stay outside the customs union and single market ... Vote Labour for more of the same?
Plus ça change.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,778
Moaning about whataboutery on a thread you repeatedly bounce with a whataboutery post every couple of weeks out of desperation ? You couldn't make it up
With JCFG 'the bringer of truth' still backing you up
Better give it a thumbs up quick
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
What are your views on upsetting the Momentum bods then?Moaning about whataboutery on a thread you repeatedly bounce with a whataboutery post every couple of weeks out of desperation ? You couldn't make it up
Fortunately Momentum are no more relevant today than Militant were in 1997
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,778
Bank Holiday, things to do. Can't spend all day laughing at you two.
*edit* I'm sure someone else will put you in your place ..... oh
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Not the comprehensive and insightful response I had hoped for, more the one I was expecting.Bank Holiday, things to do. Can't spend all day laughing at you two
crodonilson
He/Him
Big day today for Sir Keir with a reshuffle of the shadow cabinet announced. Will there be an olive branch to the left of the party with a welcome return to the front benches for Richard Burgon?? Many within the party would like to also see Annelise Dodds take a more prominent role too.
Hotchilidog
Well-known member
- Jan 24, 2009
- 9,127
Liz Kendall to Work & Pensions. Expect more persecution of those in need of welfare as Starmer refuses to raise revenue from those who can afford it.
Pleased to see Rayner get Levelling Up though.
Pleased to see Rayner get Levelling Up though.
Steering to the centre ground... preparing for government...
Labour drops plan to strip public schools of charitable status
Party drops promise to remove some charity tax perks but says it will implement VAT on fees.
www.bbc.co.uk
Hotchilidog
Well-known member
- Jan 24, 2009
- 9,127
Keir has got to keep his friends happy. More subsidies for the rich.Steering to the centre ground... preparing for government...
Labour drops plan to strip public schools of charitable status
Party drops promise to remove some charity tax perks but says it will implement VAT on fees.www.bbc.co.uk