[Politics] Sir Keir Starmer’s route to Number 10

[Hugo Rune]

There's only one game changer left to the Tories now.

A policy to rejoin the Single Market would wrong foot Labour and put the cat amongst the pigeons... Lol.

I heard the voting/election guru John Curtice suggest that every time the Tories mention immigration, they now lose votes to Reform.

They are hoping that some thick-as-pig-shit voters fall for their Rwanda nonsense but those who vote on immigration issues have noticed that net migration has tripled since Brexit and that the people coming in (mostly non-Europeans) are not their preferred flavour of immigrants.

More Rwanda coverage please!

 

[peterward]

Sunak now getting desperate with his

"a vote for Reform is a vote for Starmer"

No it isn't you twunt, but even if it were, people still wouldnt vote for your crap leadership and useless government.

 

[WATFORD zero]

My favourite bit of Sunak's interview today

'Things are picking up and you are beginning to see the results of our plan'
'Starmer doesn't have a plan, so you'll get more of the same'

That'll be more of that same plan that you are claiming is working

 

[WATFORD zero]

There's only one game changer left to the Tories now.

A policy to rejoin the Single Market would wrong foot Labour and put the cat amongst the pigeons... Lol.

A couple of years ago, I had dinner with someone I know really well, who works in the Westminster bubble and he said it was more likely the Tories would go for rejoining the Single Market than Labour. I put him on the spot, happily took the bet and have felt my money has been safe ever since.

However, given that this cabal has managed to turn every good satirical idea into reality, I'm wondering if my bet is as safe as I thought.

They couldn't, could they

 

[Bob!]

A couple of years ago, I had dinner with someone I know really well, who works in the Westminster bubble and he said it was more likely the Tories would go for rejoining the Single Market than Labour. I put him on the spot, happily took the bet and have felt my money has been safe ever since.

However, given that this cabal has managed to turn every good satirical idea into reality, I'm wondering if my bet is as safe as I thought.

They couldn't, could they

Not before the GE.
But a post GE re-incarnation could ( probably post 2 x GE's I would imagine).

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Back to square one for the right wing media.

Stories about candidates who criticise Israel then get axed by Starmer are clearly not moving the dial.

Why did you expect that to happen? Most on the right care more about our borders than Israels, Starmers lead is down to 2 things. Stay at home Tories and the reform surge, the big lead by Starmer is due to that nothing else.

The only party in the anglo sphere more corrupt than the Tories is the Democrats in the USA.

 

[A1X]

A couple of years ago, I had dinner with someone I know really well, who works in the Westminster bubble and he said it was more likely the Tories would go for rejoining the Single Market than Labour. I put him on the spot, happily took the bet and have felt my money has been safe ever since.

However, given that this cabal has managed to turn every good satirical idea into reality, I'm wondering if my bet is as safe as I thought.

They couldn't, could they

I think it won't happen until they've had their inevitable post-election combustion and someone emerges who's prepared to face down the nutters in the rank-and-file, Neil Kinnock style.

 

[Bodian]

The only party in the anglo sphere more corrupt than the Tories is the Democrats in the USA.

Bless...

 

[peterward]

Why did you expect that to happen? Most on the right care more about our borders than Israels, Starmers lead is down to 2 things. Stay at home Tories and the reform surge, the big lead by Starmer is due to that nothing else.

The only party in the anglo sphere more corrupt than the Tories is the Democrats in the USA.

Its nothing of the sort.

There are millions of pursuadable floating voters who are not tribally linked to 1 party. I'd count myself in that.

Where I may agree with you, is that the polls are not so indicative of how wonderful Starmer is or how much people believe in him, but more so how much the people utterly reject the Tories and are determined to kick them out.

Get all these fantasy stay at home Tories out on GE day, they're still getting trounced, even if many ticks in the Labour box are a rejection of the Tories rather than endorsement of Starmer.

"More corrupt than the Democrats"

so more than the fabricated Biden Burisma lies, that have been exposed as lies, and more so than a lying rapist, tax evading, insurrectionist, state secret thief who tried to steal an election he lost?

Don't be a total Prat.

 

[Ding Dong !]

Pray for the UK if Labour get in........it'll be carnage.

 

[albionalba]

The only party in the anglo sphere more corrupt than the Tories is the Democrats in the USA.

.....don't forget the SNP......

 

[Cotton Socks]

The closer it gets to the GE, it's clearer than ever imho that housing and the NHS are the THE biggest issues to resolve.

Housing - literally millions of social sector homes are required. Whilst the next income bracket above that invariably can only see a lifetime of private renting ahead. Not convinced? Listen to the callers on this (fast forward past JO'B if you loath him). includes a couple of callers from Brighton.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/BUqBMvfwsTkkdxSMBKvtkhJ3d/

NHS - we were at the RSCH A&E on Monday evening, as ever a warzone everywhere. The elderly and other vulnerable patients waiting in corridors, etc. In addition, mental health services need to be expanded significantly.

I'd love Starmer and Reeves to spell out now, tangibly, how exactly they will change that. To use the US phrase, starting with "the first 100 days".

To me that will be litmus test of their first term, and if they're doing a sound job a second term too.

You may have seen my friends mum in the corridor, she was blue-lighted up there around 11am Mon morn. She has dementia & cancer and was in that corridor until 1pm on Wed when they finally found her her bed. On the plus side she now has a private room with en-suite in the new building but I'm not sure it makes up for 48 hours in a corridor getting really distressed as she has no idea why she's there. She only knows 1 of her daughters and doesn't recognise her mum, she was very distressed. Things like this should not be happening.
I placed a dog into foster care for someone else who had to be admitted faster than my friends mum got a bed, and the hoops I had to jump through for that, as the owner couldn't give consent was ridiculous. The vet wouldn't give me a list of the dogs medication due to GDPR, as an example of the hoops! That's just reminded me to give power of attorney to someone.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

.....don't forget the SNP......

Good point.

 

[BenGarfield]

Agree completely

Unfortunately, in order to do that, whatever else they do, they will need to invest more in housing and the NHS.

They will be unable to do that with the economy as it currently stands and the direction it is currently heading. They'll need to get us out of recession, grow the economy, get inflation down, stop business bleeding out of the city to other financial centres, lessen costs for businesses operating in the UK, find workers for industries that now can't recruit sufficient staff and get them working and paying more tax etc etc.

Now I have an idea of the biggest simplest way to do that but we're only supposed to discuss that on one thread and it's not this one

They can do this without waiting for the economy to grow. Central government can kick start the economy by investing in the NHS and public infrastructure. It’s economically illiterate to suggest otherwise

 

[WATFORD zero]

They can do this without waiting for the economy to grow. Central government can kick start the economy by investing in the NHS and public infrastructure. It’s economically illiterate to suggest otherwise

You should have mentioned this wonderful theory of yours before

It must be tough being the only economically literate person in a completely economically illiterate world. You have my sympathies

 

[KZNSeagull]

They can do this without waiting for the economy to grow. Central government can kick start the economy by investing in the NHS and public infrastructure. It’s economically illiterate to suggest otherwise

Crikey. Is it really that easy? Why don't the government go the whole hog and just print tonnes of money and give everyone in the country some of it. £10m each would do it. We could all have everything we wanted and everyone would be happy. What could possibly go wrong? I cannot believe that no-one has thought of this before. It's so simple.

 

[Rdodge30]

Economically literate, illiterate or anything in between as we may all be here, SKS has categorically stated that he WILL be increasing spending on the NHS .. “pumping money in” is what he said. That’s where the £3b from taxing the non doms is headed if I remember correctly

 

[KZNSeagull]

Economically literate, illiterate or anything in between as we may all be here, SKS has categorically stated that he WILL be increasing spending on the NHS .. “pumping money in” is what he said. That’s where the £3b from taxing the non doms is headed if I remember correctly

Needs reform first. Wes Streeting has described the NHS as a leaky bucket.

Wes Streeting warns Labour over ‘nostalgia’ for NHS

UK party’s health spokesperson says improvements rest on reform rather than pouring money into a ‘leaky bucket’

www.ft.com

 

[Rdodge30]

Get the NHS back on its feet​

Paying doctors and nurses overtime to work evenings and weekends to cut the backlog – paid for by ending the non-dom tax break for the very wealthy.
A Labour government will:

• Cut waiting times by giving the NHS the staff and technology it needs.
• End the 8am scramble for GP appointments and giving patients a choice of appointments in person or on the phone.
• Improve cancer survival rates and reduce deaths from heart disease and suicide.
• More care in the community so patients aren’t stuck in hospital.

If WZ is correct and none of this can be funded then that will be the U turn to end all U turns. This is one of the 5 missions outlined by Labour and they quite rightly made it clear that it is extremely urgent. First 100 days I would say ..

*source - Labour Party

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Get the NHS back on its feet​

Paying doctors and nurses overtime to work evenings and weekends to cut the backlog – paid for by ending the non-dom tax break for the very wealthy.
A Labour government will:

• Cut waiting times by giving the NHS the staff and technology it needs.
• End the 8am scramble for GP appointments and giving patients a choice of appointments in person or on the phone.
• Improve cancer survival rates and reduce deaths from heart disease and suicide.
• More care in the community so patients aren’t stuck in hospital.

If WZ is correct and none of this can be funded then that will be the U turn to end all U turns. This is one of the 5 missions outlined by Labour and they quite rightly made it clear that it is extremely urgent. First 100 days I would say ..

*source - Labour Party

None of those problems can possibly be solved within 100days, regardless of how they're funded.