[Football] Sir Jim Ratcliffe's Five Rules

[Wozza]

(Need to acknowledge that the source of this is dubious. Might be BS.)

Personally, I have limited interest in Man Utd and their new, tax-dodging, Brexit-loving overlord.

BUT I wonder how different it is to the Albion, if we're honest?

1) Pretty much the same. Although for us it's obv about wages which come with experience, not just age.

And, yes, we sign pros at the end of their career. Surely Man Utd need some of those too?!

2) Ok, not really an option for us.

3) I think we're locked into a style now - just not to a specific person?

4) Same for us?

5) Very specific. But maybe same/similar at the Albion?

Anyway, if this is true, we won't be seeing RDZ join United...

 

[GJN1]

He's a knob, isn't he?

 

[AZ Gull]

He's a knob, isn't he?

I only know him from his posts on NSC, but he seems okay to me

 

[dazzer6666]

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(Need to acknowledge that the source of this is dubious. Might be BS.)

Personally, I have limited interest in Man Utd and their new, tax-dodging, Brexit-loving overlord.

BUT I wonder how different it is to the Albion, if we're honest?

1) Pretty much the same. Although for us it's obv about wages which come with experience, not just age.

And, yes, we sign pros at the end of their career. Surely Man Utd need some of those too?!

2) Ok, not really an option for us.

3) I think we're locked into a style now - just not to a specific person?

4) Same for us?

5) Very specific. But maybe same/similar at the Albion?

Anyway, if this is true, we won't be seeing RDZ join United...

Hardly a surprise, Ashworth will have written it for him

 

[beorhthelm]

sounds pretty similar. other than 25 limit i'm sure this is fairly standard these days with "head coach" rather than "manager".

 

[Triggaaar]

(Need to acknowledge that the source of this is dubious. Might be BS.)

They were discussing it at length on TS 4 hours ago, so I imagine it's accurate. Andy wasn't behind rule 3, but it makes sense to me. You need to have a style in mind in order to bring in the right players to fit that style, and when the manager changes, you don't want to have to ditch all of your players and get new ones for the style of the next manager. Instead, just get a manager that fits with the style you're wanting (I imagine there will be leeway for the head coach to tweak it somewhat).

 

[A1X]

Surely they can’t have a “No dickheads” rule though

 

[Weststander]

6. WFH banned permanently from next week. The lay-ins, nip to the gym, home laundry p-take is over for Manure employees.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ed-staff-early-bonus-resign-sir-jim-ratcliffe

 

[nicko31]

He's a knob, isn't he?

Thank you again Tony...

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Surely they can’t have a “No dickheads” rule though

Nobody has a no dickheads rule.

 

[Munkfish]

Can’t see how it works with the style of play set by DOF. That seems utterly wild.

 

[Wozza]

That's quite a wild thread-merge, mods!

My thead was about new rules at Man Utd, and comparing them with the Albion - not about Ratcliffe!

Hmmmph!

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[crodonilson]

I read a piece on him in the guardian the other day. By all accounts he is hell bent on securing public money to pay for the redevelopment of Old Trafford and by as the richest man in the nation and his extreme power, and the people he knows in power he is probably likely to secure it.

 

[Bozza]

That's quite a wild thread-merge, mods!

My thead was about new rules at Man Utd, and comparing them with the Albion - not about Ratcliffe!

Hmmmph!

Fixed for you.

I was thinking about this today, and what feels like even more of a shift towards head coaches and not old-school managers with wider responsibilities. It's why Chelsea want Maresca and why Kieran McKenna seems to be sought after.

Even the big rich clubs just can't afford to start again with squads and playing styles every time they change their gaffer.

 

[GJN1]

I read a piece on him in the guardian the other day. By all accounts he is hell bent on securing public money to pay for the redevelopment of Old Trafford and by all accounts as the richest man in the nation and his extreme power he is probably likely to secure it.

He can whistle. He lives in Monaco FFS.

 

[Wozza]

Fixed for you.

I was thinking about this today, and what feels like even more of a shift towards head coaches and not old-school managers with wider responsibilities. It's why Chelsea want Maresca and why Kieran McKenna seems to be sought after.

Even the big rich clubs just can't afford to start again with squads and playing styles every time they change their gaffer.

Thanks.

Yeah, it's been shifting for a while.

Everytime I hear a caller on a phone-ins blaming a manager for a duff signing, I wonder who actually made the call.

I guess it wouldn't look/sound good if a manager said "Yes, I know he's crap - but signing him wasn't my idea!"

 

[Iggle Piggle]

There is a big argument that we are one of, if not the best, run club in the world. It makes total sense we will be copied

4 makes me laugh though "You must copy the ex winger from Blackburn's philosophy" I appreciate we have a style and managers must broadly fit in but that is a a bit too rigid and impractical for me.

 

[peterward]

Fixed for you.

I was thinking about this today, and what feels like even more of a shift towards head coaches and not old-school managers with wider responsibilities. It's why Chelsea want Maresca and why Kieran McKenna seems to be sought after.

Even the big rich clubs just can't afford to start again with squads and playing styles every time they change their gaffer.

True dat.

However, of all the top 4 Pep, Arteta, Klopp and Emery. Not one head coach, all are old school managers, in as much as mostly full control.

 

[METALMICKY]

He's a knob, isn't he?

Thus far this is the same conclusion I'm coming to and I suspect a lot of non playing staff at United might be of the same opinion.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

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(Need to acknowledge that the source of this is dubious. Might be BS.)

Personally, I have limited interest in Man Utd and their new, tax-dodging, Brexit-loving overlord.

BUT I wonder how different it is to the Albion, if we're honest?

1) Pretty much the same. Although for us it's obv about wages which come with experience, not just age.

And, yes, we sign pros at the end of their career. Surely Man Utd need some of those too?!

2) Ok, not really an option for us.

3) I think we're locked into a style now - just not to a specific person?

4) Same for us?

5) Very specific. But maybe same/similar at the Albion?

Anyway, if this is true, we won't be seeing RDZ join United...

Thinking about it, we sort of did option 2 a couple of times. Vicente and Fati were 2 footballers that could have been elite - if not Galacticos - but neither really worked out for us and I'm not convinced either were great for the team. It's rare it's works for anyone in the long term.