[Football] Sin Bins for football - are coming.

[chaileyjem]

or the temporary dismissal of players for dissent...

They will be introduced in the grassroots, in the lower tier leagues from 2019/20
http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/jul/30/sin-bins-300718

They are currently being tested in various leagues including the league / u16 team that i manage. We've had a couple dispatched to the sidelines this season (swearing !!) and with the right ref can quickly prevent unnecessary chat and "feedback". Its working for lads on sunday mornings at least.

On other hand Its hard to manage, with a single ref, the timings especially in kids leagues, so the logistics are interesting. And if a ref finds it difficult to impose control/authority - it doesn't make much difference anyway. And one of the refs we had this season refused to do it. ("none of that FA bollocks" he said !)

Would they work in the professional leagues ? Is it , with VAR on its way , is it another inevitable way of professionalising refereeing. or turning er, football into rugby. Refs will have microphones next.

 

[Sirnormangall]

It seems to be working as a reasonable deterrent for players at junior level. Just need to find a similar way of controlling the behaviour of parents.

 

[Algernon]

How will the ref monitor what time the player is allowed back on the pitch? If he's sent a few off? I predict plenty of profanity problems on park pitches..

 

[Seasidesage]

If its applied with consistency I think its a great idea. My worry would be it won't be. My experience of amateur referring would be that you'll get wild variations in interpretation of what constitutes dissent.

 

[Motogull]

The sooner the better. It'll be a positive change.

 

[AmexRuislip]

As well as usual stoppages and VAR, and know possibly sin bins.
Might this add to more disruption to our great game?

 

[GT49er]

Sin Bins for football - are coming.[/B]

Oh dear.

Just don't like the ideas - sorry!

 

[Diablo]

Great idea. Green card in Hockey = 2 mins off...Yellow card between 5 and 10 ref decides...two yellows for same offence = rest of match.

 

[torchieboy]

Have it in the arun and Chichester youth league. We had 2 sin bins in our under 16 match which cost us the match. Both for dissent. Only ones we've had as we learnt our lesson. Really good idea. Stops any dissent towards the ref. Long may it last

 

[Algernon]

Have it in the arun and Chichester youth league. We had 2 sin bins in our under 16 match which cost us the match. Both for dissent. Only ones we've had as we learnt our lesson. Really good idea. Stops any dissent towards the ref. Long may it last

How long is each sin binning and who timed them? The ref I presume. On his watch? Set an alarm?

 

[Eeyore]

All for it. Positive change. Talking of time lost- well some is lost because players don't stop moaning.

I guess it would be monitored by the fourth official.

 

[studio150]

A question how are the players that have been sin binned introduced back onto the pitch, do they still require the referees permission or can they come straight back on when the sin bin penalty has elapsed.
I assume that if introduced into the football league the player would be waived on when the time penalty has elapsed by the 4th official regardless of where the play is at that time, rather than waiting for the referees permission, which would be a significant change from the current laws for players returning into play.

 

[Doonhamer7]

D7 junior is a referee and the sin bin has made a difference this season - nearly all backchat from 11-14 year olds has gone as they know they’ll be in sin bin. Just need equivalent for gobby parents who have no idea of the FA Respect campaign

 

[maffew]

Great idea. Green card in Hockey = 2 mins off...Yellow card between 5 and 10 ref decides...two yellows for same offence = rest of match.

Ice hockey, royal rumble brawl with weapons, coupla minutes to cool down and high fives all around

 

[Gwylan]

Had it rugby for years. Works a treat with young players, they learn when they're about 9 that gobbing off gets you nowhere. In six years of watching my kids play junior rugby, I've only seen one yellow card for dissent - it's drummed into them that's not the done thing.

 

[jonsey]

Horsham and District Youth league, Mid Sussex League and some of the Southern Combination already using the sin bins. Not as many issued as you would think, great tool to use when talking to players. Many more leagues will have to take it on next year. As an older referee ( yes, its out there now......) its fairly easy to use and to monitor the times of those in the sin bin. Just worry for younger referees that its more to consider for the younger refs as well as the game going on at the same time.
Dissent is a huge issue and sin bins do appear to be a positive step

 

[Albion my Albion]

As well as usual stoppages and VAR, and know possibly sin bins.
Might this add to more disruption to our great game?

No more disruption than when two players knock heads and one must be stretchered off the pitch---as what happened to Glenn Murray recently.

 

[Questions]

When they change the back pass law I’ll believe it.

 

[Mr Bridger]

Good idea, should be for dissent and feigning injury.

 

[torchieboy]

8 minutes for youth football. Ref decides by his watch. Coaches just advise him of when they think time is up !!