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Silence? Glen Wilson Yes, George Best No!!



Gilliver's Travels

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Jul 5, 2003
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George Best was a truly great and talented footballer. Undoubtedly one of English football's best-ever. But he had no connection whatsoever with the Albion.

Glen Wilson was an honest hard-working pro. Our first silverware winning, inspirational captain, as well as being the club's physio, kit man, scout and much else besides. He gave 30 years, virtually all of his working life, to the Albion. [Younger fans may better understand this by imagining Charlie Oatway passing away, having served the Albion in a number of different roles for 30 years.]

If you're going to bother to have one-minute silences at football grounds at all, then honouring Glen Wilson is the epitome of what these should be all about.

A one-minute silence for George Best simply means dragooning 7000 people at Withdean into to an embarrassed silence for someone whose relevance to the club itself is virtually zero.

This should not be happening, but undoubtedly it will. For me, it totally cheapens the purpose of such tributes. Anyone agree?
 






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1066gull

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As long as Atillo will be quite this time, I'm not really bothered.

But I do get what you mean. Losing Charlie Oatway would be like loosing the world footballing icon to us.

Like how they lost George Best.:jester:
 


Hiney

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Totally agree about Glen Wilson, although to be completely pedantic, Joe Leeming was our first silverware-winning captain :lolol: :lolol:

He is an Albion legend, fully deserving of the silence last week.

George Best's contribution to football extended right across the country and beyond and as such, is also deserving of the tribute.

I don't think it cheapens the purpose of such tributes - both are appropriate, but for different reasons
 


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1066gull

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Hiney said:
Totally agree about Glen Wilson, although to be completely pedantic, Joe Leeming was our first silverware-winning captain :lolol: :lolol:

He is an Albion legend, fully deserving of the silence last week.

George Best's contribution to football extended right across the country and beyond and as such, is also deserving of the tribute.

I don't think it cheapens the purpose of such tributes - both are appropriate, but for different reasons

:clap: :clap: :clap:
 






DJ Leon

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Gilliver's Travels said:
George Best was a truly great and talented footballer. Undoubtedly one of English football's best-ever. But he had no connection whatsoever with the Albion.

Glen Wilson was an honest hard-working pro. Our first silverware winning, inspirational captain, as well as being the club's physio, kit man, scout and much else besides. He gave 30 years, virtually all of his working life, to the Albion. [Younger fans may better understand this by imagining Charlie Oatway passing away, having served the Albion in a number of different roles for 30 years.]

If you're going to bother to have one-minute silences at football grounds at all, then honouring Glen Wilson is the epitome of what these should be all about.

A one-minute silence for George Best simply means dragooning 7000 people at Withdean into to an embarrassed silence for someone whose relevance to the club itself is virtually zero.

This should not be happening, but undoubtedly it will. For me, it totally cheapens the purpose of such tributes. Anyone agree?

Brighton and Hove Albion is a football club. George Best was arguably the greatest ever footballer and certainly the best ever British footballer. Forgive me, but I can see a connection.
 


Gully

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Apr 24, 2004
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Won't be there tomorrow, if I was I would stand in silence for a minute to pay tribute to quite possibly the greatest British player of the game I love so much, it seems a very simple way to pay my respect.

Somewhat ironically I am heading off to Manchester on Monday and will be spending the night just a stones throw from Old Trafford, might just pop over there to pay my respects as I am unable to do so at a game tomorrow.
 




Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee

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as the man himself once said.........."i hope people remember me for what i done ON the pitch rather than what i done OFF it." im 45 (and 3 quarters) and ive never seen a better footballer....and we're all football fans right? ok so he f***ed his life up and has paid the ultimate price with his life, but i think we can spare him one minute of ours?
 


Gilliver's Travels

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seagullion said:
... ok so he f***ed his life up and has paid the ultimate price with his life, but i think we can spare him one minute of ours?
For me, what George Best did beyond his football career isn't a matter for moralistic condemnation. He was perhaps Britain's greatest ever player, but his relevance to the Albion was still... zero.

My point is that these silences seem unpleasantly bogus and intrusive when imposed by FA diktat. Totally unlike the silence the club organised for Glen Wilson, or for that lady who worked in the Seagulls shop and was tragically murdered. In each case we were standing to honour a member of the Albion family, genuinely mourned by a large number of people who would have come to know them in pursuing their love for our club. A football community, honouring one of their own. It's different, but it feels so very right.
 


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Gilliver's Travels said:
For me, what George Best did beyond his football career isn't a matter for moralistic condemnation. He was perhaps Britain's greatest ever player, but his relevance to the Albion was still... zero.

My point is that these silences seem unpleasantly bogus and intrusive when imposed by FA diktat. Totally unlike the silence the club organised for Glen Wilson, or for that lady who worked in the Seagulls shop and was tragically murdered. In each case we were standing to honour a member of the Albion family, genuinely mourned by a large number of people who would have come to know them in pursuing their love for our club. A football community, honouring one of their own. It's different, but it feels so very right.
understood GT, but wasnt he part of the football community
 




Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
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An old bloke died in West Villageington this week, I DEMAND a minutes silence, he was a loving father, and husband, and was a wonderfull domino player, and he turned out for the Old Gramarians football team in 1931.
 


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Hiney said:
Totally agree about Glen Wilson, although to be completely pedantic, Joe Leeming was our first silverware-winning captain :lolol: :lolol:

He is an Albion legend, fully deserving of the silence last week.

George Best's contribution to football extended right across the country and beyond and as such, is also deserving of the tribute.

I don't think it cheapens the purpose of such tributes - both are appropriate, but for different reasons

:clap:
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
I don't care about the morals of it especially. I just think it has next to no relevance to Brighton v Derby County.

I will use my minute's silence to think about the life of Richard Burns.
 




Binney on acid

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Best was no big deal. Perhaps in the next couple of hundred years a more naturally talented player will emerge. Somehow, I doubt it.
 


The Large One

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George Best got an awful lot out of football - a good lifestyle, fame, riches and so on. Yes, he did very well out of it. But what did he put back into the game? It was a one-way traffic attitude he had.
 
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Stumpy Tim

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Superphil said:
An old bloke died in West Villageington this week, I DEMAND a minutes silence, he was a loving father, and husband, and was a wonderfull domino player, and he turned out for the Old Gramarians football team in 1931.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Here's an idea. Let's not have a minute silence, have a game of football instead, and then if you want to have a minutes silence go home & do it. Or more likely, forget about the last poor person who died & watch some crappy BBC Repeat instead.
 


Stumpy Tim

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trueblue said:
I will use my minute's silence to think about the life of Richard Burns.

And what's he got to do with Brighton V Derby?

What you'll actually do is look down & think of nothing. That's what I do, and I'm sure 90% do.

Except the bloke who shouted "f*** off back to Barnet Codner" in 91
 




trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
Richard Burns has got nothing to do it with Brighton v Derby. But if I'm being forced to reflect upon someone's life, I'd rather pay my respects to him
 


Lord Bracknell said:
Eh?

I think you must mean Attila. And he played no part in the "silence" that Sky TV botched up at the Palace game.


How did SKY botch it up? It sounded like to me that the ref blew his whistle after Paul Samrah had taken a pause during his announcement.
 


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