Makes you laugh, someone claims to have no allegience to the monarchy so they then suggesting foisting upon, what should be a secular society, a hymn about Jesus! You could'nt make it up.
Jerusalem is about Jesus in England. No. Just no.
Jerusalem is about Jesus in England. No. Just no.
Absolutely not!
Republicans should be deported if they don't like things as they are. Better still hanged for treason.
I do think however, that there is a good case for a separate English National Anthem, with God Save the Queen solely used for royal/British events. For this use, Jerusalem is certainly worthy of consideration.
Just the first line is "And did those feet in ancient times....."
But most of it is a fairly revolutionary complaint about the state of the country as it was then - as in satanic Mills - and a call to make it a better place - "Til we have built Jerusalem in England's green and pleasant land." and Jerusalem should be taken as just a good place to live and is not about a religious haven.
I am a trained preacher and believe that most people do not really know what the song is about when they sing it...... said he possibly patronisingly and I would love to be proved wrong.
At least a quarter of the population are Republican. I'm guessing you haven't thought this one through.
f*** the royals, the most spoilt family in the world.
I am a trained atheist [sic] and agree with you. William Blake was an incredibly complicated genius who was completely at odds with orthodox religion. The poem poses a question based upon a myth. The question asks whether Jerusalem, or 'utopia' can be found in our green and pleasant land. For anyone to say it is simply a religious song about Jesus being in England really does need to read the poem and not listen to the hymn.
Just the first line is "And did those feet in ancient times....."
But most of it is a fairly revolutionary complaint about the state of the country as it was then - as in satanic Mills - and a call to make it a better place - "Til we have built Jerusalem in England's green and pleasant land." and Jerusalem should be taken as just a good place to live and is not about a religious haven.
I am a trained preacher and believe that most people do not really know what the song is about when they sing it...... said he possibly patronisingly and I would love to be proved wrong.
We seem to be of one mind. I often find myself having a lot of time for people who are, as you put it, "completely at odds with organised religion". Over the years, many people (Christian and others) have been so and often for good reason.
God Save the Queen
Lyrics
God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen:
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:
God save the Queen.
O Lord, our God, arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall.
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On thee our hopes we fix:
God save the Queen.
Thy choicest gifts in store,
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign:
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen
From every latent foe,
From the assassins blow,
God save the Queen!
O'er her thine arm extend,
For Britain's sake defend,
Our mother, prince, and friend,
God save the Queen!
Or something closer to this?
Loads of the best national anthems are about fighting against the old enemy. England have managed to fall out with so many people, you wouldn't know where to start!
Just the first line is "And did those feet in ancient times....."
But most of it is a fairly revolutionary complaint about the state of the country as it was then - as in satanic Mills - and a call to make it a better place - "Til we have built Jerusalem in England's green and pleasant land." and Jerusalem should be taken as just a good place to live and is not about a religious haven.
I am a trained preacher and believe that most people do not really know what the song is about when they sing it...... said he possibly patronisingly and I would love to be proved wrong.