[News] Should we Bring Back National Service? Sunak says YES.

[BrianB]

Back on topic , a family member with years of military service and involvement with recruitment told me years ago about this ... It even pushed his kids ( " army brats" ) away from joining - and they knew what life is like in the army ! ..
The repercussions of this are still rattling through ..

Army Admits 'Bad Mistakes' With Capita Recruitment

However, Lieutenant General Urch said that by the end of the contract, the Army "will be recruiting everybody that we need".

www.forces.net

Maybe the answer is to sort this out first .

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Back on topic , a family member with years of military service and involvement with recruitment told me years ago about this ... It even pushed his kids ( " army brats" ) away from joining - and they knew what life is like in the army ! ..
The repercussions of this are still rattling through ..

Army Admits 'Bad Mistakes' With Capita Recruitment

However, Lieutenant General Urch said that by the end of the contract, the Army "will be recruiting everybody that we need".

www.forces.net

Maybe the answer is to sort this out first .

Nobody in their right mind would contract anything out to Crapita (although lots do).

Everything they touch turns to

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I am the Henry Kissinger of NSC

You might want to revisit that analogy

Henry Kissinger's Cambodia legacy of bombs and chaos

Henry Kissinger died aged 100 this week. His policies caused widespread destruction in Cambodia.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Can you stop trolling my thread with off topic comments - it is very annoying. If you have no interest in discussing the topic why are you even posting on here?

Then go and have a conversation about your engineering business on another thread please.

You are deliberately trolling this one. It’s not the first time you have used this tactic to derail threads either.

On this occasion I think you are being oversensitive. @Sid and the Sharknados is one of the good guys.

Edit as is @The Clamp

I don’t have it in for anybody, I can assure you. But if the bar is now being set so low that any thread that deviates from the OP is now considered “trolling” then Bozza may as well kick the whole thing into touch now.

Alternatively, we can continue in the same spirit and with the same ethos that has kept this place vibrant, dynamic, irreverent, funny, sad, poignant, informative and most of all just damn good fun for over a quarter of a century.

NSC is privately owned and run site, not some council-funded community hub.

Just to be clear, I am fully aware that I have an overly discursive approach to conversation. My siblings and friends regularly comment on it.
This is just how I talk to people, it's not a deliberate attempt to derail conversation.
In the last few posts on this thread, I see there's references to Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes (a correct opinion that I have strong opinions on) and Crapita (a company I spent a summer working for) either of which I'd quite happily riff on at length.
But I've no wish to annoy anybody, and I am somewhat embarrassed to have somehow wasted the mods' time on a Sunday evening (particularly given I had to ask one of them and Bozza to fix my account after the last time I flounced from it).
I'm not going to give one of those nonsense "sorry if I've annoyed you with my deliberate behaviour" apologies to Zeberdi, but I hope they understand that I'm not just willfully being an arse.
I am sorry to Bry Nylon and any other mods who've had to engage with this.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Just to be clear, I am fully aware that I have an overly discursive approach to conversation. My siblings and friends regularly comment on it.
This is just how I talk to people, it's not a deliberate attempt to derail conversation.
In the last few posts on this thread, I see there's references to Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes (a correct opinion that I have strong opinions on) and Crapita (a company I spent a summer working for) either of which I'd quite happily riff on at length.
But I've no wish to annoy anybody, and I am somewhat embarrassed to have somehow wasted the mods' time on a Sunday evening (particularly given I had to ask one of them and Bozza to fix my account after the last time I flounced from it).
I'm not going to give one of those nonsense "sorry if I've annoyed you with my deliberate behaviour" apologies to Zeberdi, but I hope they understand that I'm not just willfully being an arse.
I am sorry to Bry Nylon and any other mods who've had to engage with this.

Christ.

You're as precious as @Zeberdi

And almost half as precious as me

Prattle on, my freind. Prattle on

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Christ.

You're as precious as @Zeberdi

And almost half as precious as me

Prattle on, my freind. Prattle on

I know my target audience.
And I am genuinely a bit embarrassed. I mainly just wanted to apologise to the mods for the fuss.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Just to be clear, I am fully aware that I have an overly discursive approach to conversation. My siblings and friends regularly comment on it.
This is just how I talk to people, it's not a deliberate attempt to derail conversation.
In the last few posts on this thread, I see there's references to Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes (a correct opinion that I have strong opinions on) and Crapita (a company I spent a summer working for) either of which I'd quite happily riff on at length.
But I've no wish to annoy anybody, and I am somewhat embarrassed to have somehow wasted the mods' time on a Sunday evening (particularly given I had to ask one of them and Bozza to fix my account after the last time I flounced from it).
I'm not going to give one of those nonsense "sorry if I've annoyed you with my deliberate behaviour" apologies to Zeberdi, but I hope they understand that I'm not just willfully being an arse.
I am sorry to Bry Nylon and any other mod's who've had to engage with this.

Ha! Thanks - no apology required or expected here. Genuinely no trouble to me; the threads that meander and evolve are one of the constant sources of enjoyment, pleasure and interest on NSC, given the huge range of experience and insights the community brings to pretty much any topic.

If we adopted a policy that any thread that deviates from the original topic should be considered as “trolling” and closed, we’d lose far, far more than we’d gain - in my opinion, anyway. I don’t think I’d be alone in holding that view.

 

[Zeberdi]

Your request to close an active thread simply because you don’t approve appears to me to be arrogant and classically attention seeking.

Be sure to let me know if you want any more moderation input

Well ‘appearances are wrong’ - your further very public digs on my character establishes you clearly do not have an impartial attitude let alone a friendly one as far as I am concerned, that has been obvious for some months…you did this only a few days ago too. It may have been the wrong call to ask for my poll/thread to be locked because it had deviated from the topic and it may have been ill-conceived desire that made me return to the thread (despite you suggesting I shouldn’t) and ask if we could get back on topic but it certainly wasn’t to attract attention or anything like arrogance on my part - anyone that knows me will testify to the fact that I am the very opposite of attention seeking and arrogant.

 

[Zeberdi]

…the threads that meander and evolve are one of the constant sources of enjoyment, pleasure and interest on NSC, given the huge range of experience and insights the community brings to pretty much any topic.

If we adopted a policy that any thread that deviates from the original topic should be considered as “trolling” and closed, we’d lose far, far more than we’d gain - in my opinion, anyway. I don’t think I’d be alone in holding that view.

So you could have said all of this in the first place to me, without the personal digs and hostile attitude

 

[Bry Nylon]

Well ‘appearances are wrong’ - your further very public digs on my character establishes you clearly do not have an impartial attitude let alone a friendly one as far as I am concerned, that has been obvious for some months…you did this only a few days ago too. It may have been the wrong call to ask for my poll/thread to be locked because it had deviated from the topic and it may have been ill-conceived desire that made me return to the thread (despite you suggesting I shouldn’t) and ask if we could get back on topic but it certainly wasn’t to attract attention or anything like arrogance on my part - anyone that knows me will testify to the fact that I am the very opposite of attention seeking and arrogant.

Well, I certainly don’t come on NSC with the intention of making people feel bad or to have public digs at their character . Genuinely, I don’t. But on reflection I can see how I could have approached this differently so I’ll also publicly apologise.

Just to be clear, my views about asking for threads to be closed are nothing to do with being a moderator but far more to do with my views about NSC in general. Anyway, I propose we just draw a line under this and crack on. Genuinely no hard feelings or vendetta here.

 

[zefarelly]

Yes. To make up for the 14-years training / education on a national level that they have just completed.

school doesn't teach you about life, neither do some parents . . . Some kids are just feral

Back on topic , a family member with years of military service and involvement with recruitment told me years ago about this ... It even pushed his kids ( " army brats" ) away from joining - and they knew what life is like in the army ! ..
The repercussions of this are still rattling through ..

Army Admits 'Bad Mistakes' With Capita Recruitment

However, Lieutenant General Urch said that by the end of the contract, the Army "will be recruiting everybody that we need".

www.forces.net

Maybe the answer is to sort this out first .

I brieflyhad ideas about joining the RAF as an engineer when I was 14/15 . . . My late step father was ex army. . . . . Didn't take him more than 5 mins to explain how wonderful the forces are. . . and change my mind.

 

[BrianB]

school doesn't teach you about life, neither do some parents . . . Some kids are just feral

I brieflyhad ideas about joining the RAF as an engineer when I was 14/15 . . . My late step father was ex army. . . . . Didn't take him more than 5 mins to explain how wonderful the forces are. . . and change my mind.

Two of them attempted too enlist , both gave up after waiting ages while doing odd jobs to get some money , one now has a career and the other is trying to get back on track after wasting time .

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Well, I certainly don’t come on NSC with the intention of making people feel bad or to have public digs at their character . Genuinely, I don’t. But on reflection I can see how I could have approached this differently so I’ll also publicly apologise.

Just to be clear, my views about asking for threads to be closed are nothing to do with being a moderator but far more to do with my views about NSC in general. Anyway, I propose we just draw a line under this and crack on. Genuinely no hard feelings or vendetta here.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I hope everyone is all lovely now.

You know who I'm talking to.

 

[Rdodge30]

I have updated my post. You may raise one eyebrow, look into the middle distance, and adopt the visage of Holmes (Jeremy Brett) smiling very slightly at a case, almost now forgotten

Best Sherlock Holmes ever - rewatched a few this week

 

[Rdodge30]

Have clicked compulsory 12 months but only because 1 month is not enough … would probably go 4 months compulsory- with extended term option. Fully paid at say adult minimum wage- full board residential. Should be something like my 4 months in Haslar - 6am …. (Full scream from instructor) EVERYBODY IN C DORM ON YOUR FEET!! - wake up - stand up - start grafting- polish the floor make bed pack full uniform March to breakfast 1 hours drill in the yard and 1 hours PE all before 9am … then continue for rest of day 1 hour recreation time in evening

Best thread title in ages

 

[MattBackHome]

Best Sherlock Holmes ever - rewatched a few this week

I do love Brett, but personally would go for Rathbone who really owned that Holmes snarky, almost petulant superiority complex.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Back to the thread.

Have we brought it back yet?

I can't wait much longer as I have to go to the toilet.

 

[cjd]

I do love Brett, but personally would go for Rathbone who really owned that Holmes snarky, almost petulant superiority complex.

Back to the thread.

Have we brought it back yet?

I can't wait much longer as I have to go to the toilet.

I struggle to see the connection between your need to go to the toilet and that of the thread subject of National Service ? You can go to the toilet surely and read it on your phone while you are there ?

I don't know if your need to go to the toilet can be construed as trolling, but I'm sure a solicitor or past solicitor or someone who studied law could be more precise as to the rules...?

 

[OzMike]

Yes and concentrate on respecting others...................unless they are the enemy !