Should the voting age be raised?

[lawros left foot]

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No mention of gross is there?

 

[Pavilionaire]

To answer the original question yes it should to 40 by which time most students will have realised life isnt a bowl of cherries and you can only take out what you put in to it,.

Remarkable.

So why 40 and not 23?

 

[Tom Bombadil]

To answer the original question yes it should to 40 by which time most students will have realised life isnt a bowl of cherries and you can only take out what you put in to it,.

As a representative of the generation that has had it the easiest I think you should keep your mouth shut.

 

[BrickTamland]

This thread is comedy gold.

 

[Horses Arse]

To answer the original question yes it should to 40 by which time most students will have realised life isnt a bowl of cherries and you can only take out what you put in to it,.

Never liked this particular 'youth' expression but..... OMG.

Disturbingly I fear this isn't a sarcastic post. Long term resentment from being denied an education perhaps?

 

[Bold Seagull]

To answer the original question yes it should to 40 by which time most students will have realised life isnt a bowl of cherries and you can only take out what you put in to it,.

Now I don't know the new figures, but after the election in 2015, 99 or 16% of our MPs were under the age of 40, and you're saying they cannot vote because they are not old enough to know what life is about yet!?

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

To answer the original question yes it should to 40 by which time most students will have realised life isnt a bowl of cherries and you can only take out what you put in to it,.

I'm sorry, WHAT?

 

[Bold Seagull]

What this thread proves, is that the old can become intransigent, protectionist, reductive, stubborn. This has to be countered with the vote of the young who can be creative, inspired, aspirational, positive, outward looking.

If you can be employed and pay tax and be classed an adult by any measure, then you should be allowed to vote. Can you imagine sending our troops to war, and potentially to their death and they're not allowed to vote!? The very notion is abhorrent.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Crap....... stop quoting the Guardian.... it was so well publicised that only myopic lefties chose to twist it as remoan propoganda.... gross figure... always was.

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So what you're saying is.....the leave campaign spent money putting a MASSIVE slogan on a MASSIVE bus which everyone knew wasn't accurate and wouldn't possibly help persuade someone to choose their campaign?

That seems odds.

 

[lawros left foot]

So what you're saying is.....the leave campaign spent money putting a MASSIVE slogan on a MASSIVE bus which everyone knew wasn't accurate and wouldn't possibly help persuade someone to choose their campaign?

That seems odds.

What is the gross of 18.2 billion per annum?

 

[Norman Potting]

What this thread proves, is that the old can become intransigent, protectionist, reductive, stubborn. This has to be countered with the vote of the young who can be creative, inspired, aspirational, positive, outward looking.

If you can be employed and pay tax and be classed an adult by any measure, then you should be allowed to vote. Can you imagine sending our troops to war, and potentially to their death and they're not allowed to vote!? The very notion is abhorrent.

Short, to the point and entirely true.

 

[BensGrandad]

As a representative of the generation that has had it the easiest I think you should keep your mouth shut.

That remark was very tongue in cheek and said as a joke to suggest that the young dont always appreciate things so well. As regards having had it the easiest I would agree as the only hard times were when a Labour Government was in power, which thankfully wasnt for the majority of the time.

 

[Horses Arse]

That remark was very tongue in cheek and said as a joke to suggest that the young dont always appreciate things so well. As regards having had it the easiest I would agree as the only hard times were when a Labour Government was in power, which thankfully wasnt for the majority of the time.

As comedy accounts go this one is getting pretty tired now.

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[lawros left foot]

That remark was very tongue in cheek and said as a joke to suggest that the young dont always appreciate things so well. As regards having had it the easiest I would agree as the only hard times were when a Labour Government was in power, which thankfully wasnt for the majority of the time.

Lucky old you,BG, you didn't lose your house to negative equity, didn't have to pay 15% interest rates,didn't have to wait years to see a consultant on Hospital waiting lists, didn't lose your job and become one of 3million unemployed,then?

 

[cheshunt seagull]

Can we ban anyone who has ever described themselves as having been to 'The University of Life'?

 

[DataPoint]

What this thread proves, is that the old can become intransigent, protectionist, reductive, stubborn. This has to be countered with the vote of the young who can be creative, inspired, aspirational, positive, outward looking.

If you can be employed and pay tax and be classed an adult by any measure, then you should be allowed to vote. Can you imagine sending our troops to war, and potentially to their death and they're not allowed to vote!? The very notion is abhorrent.

You can't get a degree in experience. All other things being equal a 70 year old will have a far greater wisdom than a 17 year old. Every day you experience something new. Older people just know more - simple! We also learned the dicipline and risks required for good/bad judgement.

Just for the record the old were young once - except 50 years ago we were the first and the greatest youth cult the world has ever known - an explosion of energy emitting from the U.K. that took the whole world by storm - what were the words you used? Creative, inspired, aspirational, positive, outward looking. Yep! - You're describing my generation brilliantly.

By the way, luckily, you have no experience or war and that's good. If however, young people wish to be greater informed of the horrors of total conflict, I would highly recommend the amazing and highly acclaimed 'The World at War' Thames TV produced series. You may have to search a little to access it as I doubt you'll find it on Facebook or Twitter - it's a serious piece of education.

 

[Yoda]

That remark was very tongue in cheek and said as a joke to suggest that the young dont always appreciate things so well. As regards having had it the easiest I would agree as the only hard times were when a Labour Government was in power, which thankfully wasnt for the majority of the time.

Interesting you say that, for me growing up, it's the complete opposite.

I only remember hard times and my mum missing evening meals day on day just to feed me & my brother when the Tories were in charge.

During my working life (most of it in the public sector, DWP & NHS), again only hard times of way below inflation pay rises under the Tories. If we were to apply to rent the place me & my other half are in now, they'd be no chance and she's had to take up an evening job as well so we can pay the bills AND afford to eat.

Only good times for me and my family were when Labour were in parliament.

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

As an ex-teacher, you should know better than to indulge in casual stereotyping. Some pensioners may think of nothing but their pension and personal welfare (including the few you have apparently communicated with) but you have no evidence to justify saying it's most of them, any more than people are justified in claiming that all teenagers are politically ignorant.

I have quite a lot of evidence actually (Brexit voting, discussions with older generations, word of mouth, voting patterns at this election...). Most of it is highlighted in the rest of the post, which you clearly failed to read. Then again maybe you're just not paying attention to the world around you.

 

[GT49er]

Now I don't know the new figures, but after the election in 2015, 99 or 16% of our MPs were under the age of 40, and you're saying they cannot vote because they are not old enough to know what life is about yet!?

If they were under 40 and had gone straight into politics from education, as so many politicians do (some of the 50 and 60 year old MPs have never had a job in the real world either) then they might well not know what life is all about.

 

[HitchinSeagull]

You can't get a degree in experience. All other things being equal a 70 year old will have a far greater wisdom than a 17 year old. Every day you experience something new. Older people just know more - simple! We also learned the dicipline and risks required for good/bad judgement.

Just for the record the old were young once - except 50 years ago we were the first and the greatest youth cult the world has ever known - an explosion of energy emitting from the U.K. that took the whole world by storm - what were the words you used? Creative, inspired, aspirational, positive, outward looking. Yep! - You're describing my generation brilliantly.

By the way, luckily, you have no experience or war and that's good. If however, young people wish to be greater informed of the horrors of total conflict, I would highly recommend the amazing and highly acclaimed 'The World at War' Thames TV produced series. You may have to search a little to access it as I doubt you'll find it on Facebook or Twitter - it's a serious piece of education.

Pile of patronising shit, wisdom is about more than just being alive, in fact the xenophobia that is more prevalent among the old is startlingly ignorant.

'we were the first and the greatest youth cult the world has ever known'

Many reasons for this and one of them was a post rationing massive increase of disposable income amongst the young. So your just pointing out how easy you had it and the opportunities you had that youngsters today don't have.

Experience of war? A 70 year old wasn't alive in the war and has no more experience of it than a youngster today apart from reading Battle and Victory comics and commando book's.



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