jakarta
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You don't have to be a Daily Mail reader to realise she has served her Country rather well. I will say no more.
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[Misc] Should the queen abdicate?
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You don't have to be a Daily Mail reader to realise she has served her Country rather well. I will say no more.
I bet most would swap their lives with those of a top footballer but very few would swap with the queen. Would you?
IMO
Not for the nation, but for her family.
There should be no pressure on the Queen to attend anything, time to handover to Charles or (ideally) William, though that won’t happen, as Charles will also feel obligated by duty.
She should have the nations everlasting thanks for a wonderful reign….
Probably not but mainly because I don’t think there should be a monarchy. Having said that, privilege aside I do acknowledge the obligation and restrictions placed upon her that no, I would not like to live with. I’d agree with that.
She doesn't have to attend events to still be the Queen. Charles can represent her at all official engagements. She can effectively retire from the limelight without retiring from the position. She's come this far and I suspect that she'll want to see the job through to the end.
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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I appreciate NSC is broad church of opinions but currently 11 want shot of the Monarchy altogether.
We are really are an eclectic mix.
We are really are an eclectic mix.
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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I think she is trying to outlive Charles - the guy is a total hypocrite.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I agree. The most important thing to consider here isn't what we want, but what HM wants. She doesn't want to retire. Our monarchy, whether we like it or not, doesn't allow for two monarchs in the same land, so if she abdicates, she would have to go into exile, for her son to be crowned.
If she was completely incapable, ie unconscious or her mental health was affected, then we can have a Prince (or Princess) Regent.
It was over 40% in the recent poll https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/show...epublic&highlight=Should+the+uK+be+a+republic
Personally, I find support for the monarchy utterly baffling. Is it a form of Stockholm Syndrome?
Where on earth does it say that if a monarch abdicates, they have to go into exile. Only 4 monarchs have abdicated, Richard II was forced to abdicate by Henry Bolingbroke after he surrendered and he died in captivity at Pontefract Castle (which contradicts your assertion there can't be two monarchs at one time). Mary Queen of Scots was forced to and as relations weren't great it was in her interests to flee. James II ran away from the Dutch army of William of Orange and whilst doing so, threw his official seal into the Thames which was taken as a sign he was abdicating. For obvious reasons he stayed away. Edward VIII abdicated due to love and he was effectively cut off by the rest of the family hence he was in self imposed exile in Paris.
As for the monarchy, I'm for it as it is purely a ceremonial post and doesn't have the power that most head's of state have.
I would despair if anyone like Johnson was elected as our head of state with similar powers to those that Trump had in the US.
The Pageantry sets us aside from many other countries and whilst it obviously has historical connections to the empire of the past it is moving away from that. One way could possibly be, upon the death of HM, for the commonwealth countries to elect a new head of state for the Commonwealth. It could be Charles or it could be a nomination from one of the other members and possible for a fixed term.
I would despair if anyone like Johnson was elected as our head of state with similar powers to those that Trump had in the US.
The Pageantry sets us aside from many other countries and whilst it obviously has historical connections to the empire of the past it is moving away from that. One way could possibly be, upon the death of HM, for the commonwealth countries to elect a new head of state for the Commonwealth. It could be Charles or it could be a nomination from one of the other members and possible for a fixed term.
- Oct 17, 2008
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God bless Her Majesty
What is it with the pageantry that people are so taken by? Mussolini knew how to put on a good show too and at least he got the trains running on time.
- Oct 17, 2008
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No he didn't. It's a myth.
https://history.howstuffworks.com/h...solini-really-keep-trains-running-on-time.htm
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
The question becomes more academic by the day.
They always underplay royal health problems and the fact she is missing significant jubilee events does not look good to me.
They always underplay royal health problems and the fact she is missing significant jubilee events does not look good to me.
grubbyhands
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She must be wishing William was her son rather than Charles. She'd have abdicated by now if that was the case.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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If she had broken her leg, she wouldn’t be able to. She’s got mobility issues. It’s just bad luck and timing. We’re the Jubilee in August or last Feb for example I’m sure she’d be ok. Still that won’t stop all the anti royalists using as a stick to beat the old women with. As if it’s effecting their lives in some way