[Politics] Should pitbulls be eradicated from the canine gene pool?

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

"He's a lovely dog, a big softie. His name's Tyson. He loves babies and small children ... especially for breakfast."

Eradicate the dogs and the type of people who tend to own them as a macho 'hard man' status symbol on their sink estate. The dogs and their socially-inadequate chavvy owners tend to be anti-social, erratic in their behaviour, and thus prone to random outbursts of aggression and violence.

Get rid - eliminate with extreme prejudice.

I used to get mocked by the extreme right on here for suggesting that spotty 'Islamist' terrorist martyrs have mental health issues.

I will now perhaps enrage the extreme left and right by suggesting that 'chavvy' wanton mad dog-owning skunk-heads also have mental health issues, and are neither unwilling victims of a harsh capitalist system, or of an inviolate criminal class.

I have some but limited experience of 'out of control' (white, down here in North Kent) 'problem' families and my view is there is a streak of (largely undiagnosed) mental health issues at work.

It has traditionally been the reaction of 'people like us' to condemn and mock and seek to protect 'ourselves' from the 'feral' and suchlike.

Maybe there is another way, which would involve the tricky business of 'persuading' people who may have committed little or no criminal acts (yet) but who have chaotic lives, to engage with help, the availability of genuine and useful help, and the acceptance by the public that this will cost money (albeit this would save money if teenagers are caught early before they breed like flies and provide suboptimal lives for their kids at best, or neglect/abuse them at worst, recreating a cycle of deprivation and massive strain on social services, the police and criminal justice system).

Call me peculiar but I just don't accept that people whose brains are wired effectively make the sort of lifestyle choices that we all mock or fume about, using a fully-informed fully-functional free will.

We can ignore, we can criminalize, or we could try to intercede. The latter means interfering with [people's lives. So it will be a tough sell by whoever decides to make it policy.

As a poignant note, our nipper's 13 year old friend, who has been excluded from school, is currently being pestered by her 'boyfriend' who constantly sends txts telling her he loves her.....he's 16. It is not my responsibility to enquire about coercive control, or council the girl about her choices. I can't ask an unrelated 13 year old what she is 'up to'. Our nipper has limited information but we can't, in any case, use her as an intermediary/conduit. And if there are concerns that one might whistle blow to social services . . . . what exactly would they be able to investigate in the current climate with the currently available frameworks? The girls looks and sounds healthy. So this is way under the radar of the current social service rubric. And yet I can see how this is all likely to pan out....

 

[GT49er]

But aren’t some ‘allegedly’ more docile than others.
Genuinely don’t know…..

Any dog can turn nasty, even little fluffy friendly ones! Friends of mine had a golden labrador, soft as putty, which suddenly turned on them one morning, inflicting serious bites (it was posthumously diagnosed with a brain tumour). If it had been a pit bull or XL bully, in all probability there would have been fatalities - so why keep a potential killer?
Losing a loved one is a heavy price to pay for the macho posing of owning a fierce and dangerous dog!

 

[portlock seagull]

View attachment 192375Even if they didn’t have the predilection to kill I still will never understand why anyone would want this in their house.

As an aside you can see what looks to be a fully grown male is struggling and having to bend and brace their legs just to keep this monster under control.

Christ, that animal looks more terrifying than a Lion. I’d leave the park and call the police immediately if I saw that coming towards me. Utterly irresponsible having that in a public area. Should be put down immediately.

 

[Seagull58]

View attachment 192375Even if they didn’t have the predilection to kill I still will never understand why anyone would want this in their house.

As an aside you can see what looks to be a fully grown male is struggling and having to bend and brace their legs just to keep this monster under control.

That's because the owner is obviously one of Village People.

 

[GT49er]

If you don't mind me asking, how many of those kinds of people have you met?

I would be surprised if someone who uses derogatory language like 'sink estate' and 'chavy' - I, may be wrongly, assume you are generalising about all working class people - comes into contact enough to make an informed judgement.

Yes, I know. You are going to tell me you are specifically referring to XL bully owners, and you know many of them.

Yes, I'm pretty sure you are. Those of us who have had contact with both 'sink estate and chavy' and working class people in general are capable of differentiating perfectly well

 

[Cheggers]

Yes, I'm pretty sure you are. Those of us who have had contact with both 'sink estate and chavy' and working class people in general are capable of differentiating perfectly well

OK mate.

 

[GT49er]

OK mate.

Yep. It is.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Any dog can turn nasty, even little fluffy friendly ones! Friends of mine had a golden labrador, soft as putty, which suddenly turned on them one morning, inflicting serious bites (it was posthumously diagnosed with a brain tumour). If it had been a pit bull or XL bully, in all probability there would have been fatalities - so why keep a potential killer?
Losing a loved one is a heavy price to pay for the macho posing of owning a fierce and dangerous dog!

Absolutely this! Loads of dogs are complete twats, absolute lose their shit at suddenly someone wearing a red rucksack or a weird hat - but very few of the dogs having these reactions leave human beings facing fatalities.