You’re right of course but it means his Nuclear Deterrent is far greater than ours, France, US and UK.
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[Politics] Should NATO send in troops and planes
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You’re right of course but it means his Nuclear Deterrent is far greater than ours, France, US and UK.
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TBF CS at least a foot war in these circumstances would be us aiming at some uniforms for a change!!
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LamieRobertson
Not awoke
No.
British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
- 10,980
Is it really down to one man pressing a red button to launch thousands of nuclear weapons or does it has to go through a chain of command?
I can't see it being 'localised' at all. The minute the first one is launched, it's game over. For all.
Charlies Shinpad
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He will just throw numbers at us as per Stalin.
A pure waste of lives on both sides if it did happen.
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Charlies Shinpad
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Over here it's not but over there I wouldn't be surprised.
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Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Yes.
As a minimum as far as the west bank of the Dnipro river.
Stealth bomb any of Putin's air defences on Ukrainian soil.
I'm against entering Russia though or parking tanks on the Kremlin lawn.
As a minimum as far as the west bank of the Dnipro river.
Stealth bomb any of Putin's air defences on Ukrainian soil.
I'm against entering Russia though or parking tanks on the Kremlin lawn.
Charlies Shinpad
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Back in the day we could launch 16 missiles in 13 minutes but the second the first missile left the water you were dead men but you still had enough time to launch all 16.
A lovely scenario back then.
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Not so appealing when it comes to global catastrophe.
The trouble is we do not operate in a Ukrainian vacuum. NATO’s army is far superior to that of Russia, and would comfortably overwhelm Russian forces in Ukraine if they were to battle it out there. The issue though is escalation. Would you steadfastly stand by your opinion if that meant all out war (conventional or otherwise) coming to the shores of the UK?
As much as I want to put my kids to bed at night without the threat of aerial bombardment and as much as I don’t want to see nuclear weapons dropped on British soil, it’s not a simply selfish view. If this war escalates to the point that NATO and Russian forces are at war, we will count the victims around the world in the hundreds of millions if not billions.
That’s why we’re seeing such a supposedly meek approach from NATO. The stakes are just so unimaginably high.
- Apr 5, 2014
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I think once the nuclear arsenal gets beyond a certain size it matters not really. Just a couple of hundred of those things is enough to end the world as we know it.
I suppose he's got more to aim at than us.
Dorset Seagull
Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
Not at this time but we must learn the lessons and have a plan to deal with possible issues with China long before they happen
Being honest I was talking more about the fact that considering each axis has nuclear capabilities it seems we are more scared making his deterrent far g more effective than ours[emoji45] Not the actual numbers[emoji106]
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Baldseagull
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No to NATO, at the moment, although maybe the UK alone could hold some special military operations in Ukraine?
I think it's likely that UK and other special forces will already be on the ground in small numbers, as "advisors". Some technical training is surely necessary on the use of anti tank missiles etc. I am sure intelligence from NATO networks is being passed on, satellite images, technical information on Russian weaponry and how to use that if captured, or effective ways to destroy or limit it's effect.
France has released Ukrainian members of the Foreign Legion, so that they can return to Ukraine. There will be other unofficial or oblique help for Ukraine from us and other States too, much of which we will never hear about.
I think it's likely that UK and other special forces will already be on the ground in small numbers, as "advisors". Some technical training is surely necessary on the use of anti tank missiles etc. I am sure intelligence from NATO networks is being passed on, satellite images, technical information on Russian weaponry and how to use that if captured, or effective ways to destroy or limit it's effect.
France has released Ukrainian members of the Foreign Legion, so that they can return to Ukraine. There will be other unofficial or oblique help for Ukraine from us and other States too, much of which we will never hear about.
This.
Unfortunately we seem to be caught like rabbits in the headlights.
You can draw a line from Kyiv to Odesa. That would be strategically a perfect place for Putin to draw a line. Some forced movement of people, and job done.
If we aren't going to do anything now, then when exactly? Never. Innit.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Personally I would like to see far more wider ranging and immediate sanctions from the West. I still believe this will be the most effective way to stop Putin.
Although this would significantly hit the pockets of certain western individuals, businesses, groups and power bases, I would much rather that than risking further young lives.
Although this would significantly hit the pockets of certain western individuals, businesses, groups and power bases, I would much rather that than risking further young lives.
I've said no but only purely because I'm not sure how hard or easy it would be for Putin to go nuclear. I think in the west a nuclear strike has to go through many chains of command and even then someone has to "pull the trigger".
I may be completely wrong but my guess is Putin could decide and his yes men would agree and if they don't they'd be shot and replaced with someone that does.
Maybe I've watched too many films
I may be completely wrong but my guess is Putin could decide and his yes men would agree and if they don't they'd be shot and replaced with someone that does.
Maybe I've watched too many films
No, otherwise I fear that millions will be killed across Europe and beyond.