[Albion] Should Murphy's "goal" have stood?

[GT49er]

If only there were some sort of handy online video. Oh wait....

http://www.skysports.com/football/brighton-vs-ipswich/339809

Not only was he onside, the left back holds up the hand of apology to his team mates.

Can't play the link, but looking at Bozza's still it looks onside, just.

 

[trueblue]

The trouble is, there's a lot less flak for the lino with a marginal decision like that it he gives it offside than if the goal is allowed to stand. Disallowed = a few aggrieved fans moaning about it on a messageboard. Winning goal that should have been ruled out = everybody talking about it later and lino looking a ****.

 

[C1 BHA]

Just keep your flag down unless you're CERTAIN! It's not rocket science is it?

 

[Gazwag]

Not knowing what the current rules say but does the keepers touch make a difference, ie onside if it doesn't but I think he is offside when the keeper makes the save.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Thin margins ....CH said we were on the right side of them earlier in the season...right now we are on the other.....that's football

 

[JCL666]

It's so frustrating when linos/refs can't interpret a situation and context. The thing is that forwards play on the edge in order to maximise their advantage. So anyone with an ounce of pace or quick reactions can appear to be offside. The key word being "appear".

If I can see that and accommodate it for u12 matches when I'm a dad helping out THEN A BLOODY PROFESSIONAL SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If only there were some sort of handy online video. Oh wait....

http://www.skysports.com/football/brighton-vs-ipswich/339809

Not only was he onside, the left back holds up the hand of apology to his team mates.

#TheGrandadParodyAcoountContinues

The very fact that Hemed makes the pass on the left hand side of that Ipswich LB, shows that Murphy was onside as the keeper is almost on his goal line.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

I try to think on the basis that these things even themselves out over a season to a large degree.

When, not if, soccerball moves to fourth officials and Hawkeye technology then a lot of the pleasure of watching will be removed as talking points will no longer exist, along with threads like this.

But the goal should have stood as it was not offside, but.............meh

I agree they even out over the season but we do seem to be getting the worst of them at the moment, as often happens when you hit a poor run. Both Burnley and Derby penalties were questionable and we might have had a penalty late on against Brentford when Manu went down. However, we should have given away penalties against Bristol City and MK when we were winning games so it does even out.

 

[StonehamPark]

From the still photograph posted by Bozza I would say he looks to be offside, which I thought at the time, but if anybody has a video of it we may get a better view. It was a 50/50 decision and could have one either way.

I think you may have overlooked the Ipswich Left Back, BG (far-right of the image).

 

[Driver8]

From the still photograph posted by Bozza I would say he looks to be offside

There's a surprise. You take the opposite (and wrong) view to everyone else.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Was he given offside for when the ball came back off the bar? Probably wrong, but thought that would have nullified any offside claim. A few around me seemed to think so too.

 

[BBassic]

Interesting to think that this ref gave a goal that wasn't and last night took away a goal that was.

 

[maltaseagull]

Watching on the radio he was clearly onside.

Dead right!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Was he given offside for when the ball came back off the bar? Probably wrong, but thought that would have nullified any offside claim. A few around me seemed to think so too.

No, the bloke behind us said he was offside for the original pass, but the still clearly shows that he wasn't. Which is what I said!!

 

[maltaseagull]

From the highlights it looks a wrong decision to me.

 

[The Brighton Buzz]

Thought it was a good goal at the time and this picture confirms he is a yard onside. The officials yesterday were inept at best.

 

[father_and_son]

I've said onside.... but then did this... [line drawn parallel to the goal line rather than the penalty box]




...my line passes through the boot of both players. I don't think this could be closer, but still feel that the goal should have stood.

If the lino isn't sure it was offside the benefit of the doubt should go to the team scoring... Shirley?!

 

[kevo]

What was particularly bad was that the defender on the right was in front of the lino, on his side, so surely he could have seen that Murphy was onside? Poor decision. Benefit of doubt should always go to the attacker.

 

[The Brighton Buzz]

The very fact that Hemed makes the pass on the left hand side of that Ipswich LB, shows that Murphy was onside as the keeper is almost on his goal line.

Just seen it on local news. All the Ipswich players had their heads down and walking back to the half way line accepting the goal. Not one player protested which says it all. Bloody terrible decision.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

What was particularly bad was that the defender on the right was in front of the lino, on his side, so surely he could have seen that Murphy was onside? Poor decision. Benefit of doubt should always go to the attacker.

AND the defending player was moving towards the byline. I understand how difficult it is sometimes for linos to get it wrong when the defenders are moving out and attackers towards goal or when there are weird deflections. They've got a split second to react.

But in this case, Stephen's flick was very pronounced, so the lino saw the exact second the ball was kicked and the defender was running back. I just can't see how he could have thought it was offside.