Should AWAY fans be allowed in the HOME end at Withdean?

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

there are serious safety crowd control issues here young kiddies caught up with burpberry capped loonies its just not a money issue ita also against ground rules so the Stewards should eject the away fans but did they? Not in E block they didnt!

 

[Easy 10]

And of course there are NO burberry-capped loonies amongst the home support is there. Absolutely not, no sirreee. Nope. Never.

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

its no laughing matter and could seriously affect the clubs public safety /liability oder to alloow the club to continue using the ground and the club should ensure this sort of invasion never happens again!

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

It's very easy to get official tickets if you have a local address. My pal (QPR) got 2 tickets for the south stand through the club and lives in brighton. He couldn't believe he'd get them as he thought we'd sell out, he also applied for tickets through QPR and got them.

Even if he's local, but supports the away team, he shouldn't be getting his tickets from Brighton. Why ? Because he's compromising the clubs safety certificate, putting home supporters at risk, and undermining crowd safety, making it harder for stewards & police to segregate fans.

No, ANY away fan found in home areas has to be ejected from the ground. This is not about money, it's about safety. And you NEVER compromise safety for the sake of a quick buck.

I live in Newbury, but you didn't find me sitting with the Reading fans at the Madstad in August, even though I could have had my pick of any of the stands if I'd wanted to.

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

"Even if he's local, but supports the away team, he shouldn't be getting his tickets from Brighton. Why ? Because he's compromising the clubs safety certificate, putting home supporters at risk, and undermining crowd safety, making it harder for stewards & police to segregate fans.

No, ANY away fan found in home areas has to be ejected from the ground. This is not about money, it's about safety. And you NEVER compromise safety for the sake of a quick buck.

I live in Newbury, but you didn't find me sitting with the Reading fans at the Madstad in August, even though I could have had my pick of any of the stands if I'd wanted to."

EXCELLENT POSTING

 

[Jello]

Do you really think away fans are worried abouit compromising our safety cert. I wouldn't see him as a risk as he knows his place and was in the home end last season. He's not an idiot like the fella who got kicked out on Saturday.
If I couldn't get a ticket as the away team only allocated 750, I'd be tempted to apply for the home end, wouldn't anyone?

 

[Easy 10]

This is getting SO blown out of proportion its fecking ridiculous (FG must have a hard-on from this thread).

Look. There is no harm in having a presence of away fans in the home end. Its guaranteed to happen at just about EVERY match we go to, and I havn't yet seen a bloodbath develop because of it. 99.9% of football fans, yes even AWAY football fans, are decent people who are just wanting to go along and watch their team. If they are sitting in the home end, then they'll nearly always keep their allegiencies to themselves anyway - I've done it myself at a few games when I've missed out on tickets for the away end. You will occasionally get a more vociferous away fan amongst the home end, but this is hardly tantamount to starting a riot is it ? Any home fan who feel the need to react violently just because they are sitting in the same stand as an away fan has got to be a bit of a headcase anyway.

If an away fan in the home end does start acting like a prick, then just the same as any home fan acting like a prick, they will be ejected. WHATS THE BIG DEAL ? Football is becoming so f***ing sanitised, you can't do anything without some busybody wringing their hands and saying "ohhh this shouldn't be happening because what if...."

Dickheads are always amongst us, regardless what team they support. As long as the stewards deal with it efficiently if they DO cause any trouble, then where's the problem ?

Jees.

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

i was in E block and the Stewards didnt deal with the problem!

 

[Jello]

Spot on Easy

 

[Easy 10]

i was in E block and the Stewards didnt deal with the problem!

Then I suggest you direct your campaign towards the stewards, because they should be removing troublemakers FULL STOP, regardless what team they support.

We had a couple of QPR fans sitting with us, and we all found it quite straightforward to act like adults and discuss the match like human beings. At no point did I feel like getting up and lamping them because they were QPR fans. They didn't advertise the fact to all and sundry that they supported QPR, and believe it or not, the whole afternoon passed off without incident despite there being "enemy amongst us".

I suppose YOU'D have had them turfed out immediately though, you fool.

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

Thats because the away end at the Madejski can accomodate pretty much anybody who wants to travel to watch thier team.
I'll bet that if Brighton had sold the allocation and you didn't have a ticket, you'd be in the Home end.

That happened three years ago ( Div 2 Championship season ). I didn't go in the home end, I stayed at home & followed the game on Radio Berks.

For the Div 1 game two years ago, I was in the away end.

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

This is getting SO blown out of proportion its fecking ridiculous (FG must have a hard-on from this thread).

Look. There is no harm in having a presence of away fans in the home end. Its guaranteed to happen at just about EVERY match we go to, and I havn't yet seen a bloodbath develop because of it. 99.9% of football fans, yes even AWAY football fans, are decent people who are just wanting to go along and watch their team. If they are sitting in the home end, then they'll nearly always keep their allegiencies to themselves anyway - I've done it myself at a few games when I've missed out on tickets for the away end. You will occasionally get a more vociferous away fan amongst the home end, but this is hardly tantamount to starting a riot is it ? Any home fan who feel the need to react violently just because they are sitting in the same stand as an away fan has got to be a bit of a headcase anyway.

The bloodbath happened at Heysel, or have you forgotten. Poor segregation WILL lead to trouble. Maybe not at Brighton vs. QPR, but probably somewhere else at some point.

 

[Easy 10]

That happened three years ago ( Div 2 Championship season ). I didn't go in the home end, I stayed at home & followed the game on Radio Berks.

But if you HAD decided to go and watch the match in the home end, what do you think might have happened ? Full scale riot ? Collapse of the main stand ? A weekend in hospital ?

Troublemakers go to a match to make trouble - whether they are in the home end OR the away end. If you're not wearing colours, not going to provoke people, and just want to get in to see your team, then whats the problem with an away fan getting a ticket for the home end ? This isn't tribal warfare, its only football for christs sake.

I think people lose sight of that sometimes.

 

[Easy 10]

The bloodbath happened at Heysel, or have you forgotten. Poor segregation WILL lead to trouble. Maybe not at Brighton vs. QPR, but probably somewhere else at some point.

An immotive argument taken to an extreme. Heysel was a crumbling relic of a stadium which was an accident waiting to happen, and poor segregation was only part of the problem.

Obviously I'm not saying do away with segregation completely. We still want to have home ends and away ends, most fans prefer to be amongst their own anyway. But if we do get a handful of away fans in the home end, then as long as they're behaving then there really isn't an issue. If they choose to behave like fools then the police and stewards will (or should) handle it. But I'd reiterate - I'd wager that there is a fairly high presence of away fans in home ends all over the country, who keep themselves to themselves and just watch the game.

This is not a big issue, and its only the likes of FG trying to whip up a storm over absolutely nothing (as usual).

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

There's no if's about it. I would not have wanted to celebrate a 2-1 victory unless I'd wanted a thumping.

Don't think Reading don't have their ( admittedly small ) share of meatheads - they do.

And your point about it being football & not tribal warfare doesn't really ring true in the real world of Chelsea headhunters, ICF's, Zulu's, Soul Crews, 657's, English Bridge Firms, etc .

That's why we have to have segregation. If we acted like Rugby fans then it wouldn't be needed, but football fans don't seem to be able to.

 

[H2O]

I think its a absolute no no. OK so there were a few QPR fans in the home end which really isnt a major problem but where do you draw the line?? Manchester Derby?? Celtic/Rangers? clearly there are mant teams out there that couldnt share a stand with each other so it has got to be no. Would you be happy taking your kid to a home game knowing there might be away fans in your end?

 

[Emily's Mum]

Generally speaking away fans should not be allowed to sit in the home end; but, if we ever get to play Barnsley again there will be a little boy sitting next to me who is a Barnsley fan. However, he will only sit next to me because he thinks it' safer to sit with his mum than on his own with the Barnsley fans!

Hopefully no Brighton fan will have a problem with a teenager sitting wth his mum, even if he does support the opposition.

 

[Billy Seagull]

Dunno what all the fuss is about. If we have sold the tickets then yes let them sit there as long as they don't make a big noise about it.
4 of us did this at Bournemouth last year when we couldn't get tickets in our end and managed to stay quiet...ish

 

[Mendoza]

ive been in home end, when weve played away.
its different not cheering us, but you do anything to watch the game
so fair pay if they get in as long as they dnt kick up a fuss

its ok if your mate supports the other team and you wanna sit with him

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

if its not a sell out and are passivr we need the money!